What do christians have against gay people

[Dotard]

Would it make you feel better if we stuck to the original word that was brought up; 'Abnormal'?

Homosexuality is not the norm. It is not normal in nature, it is abnormal. It was suggested 'natural' was the better descriptor. I am arguing it is not a better descriptor as it may be 'natural' as 'produced in nature', but so are diseases. The diseases I mentioned are natural but abnormal, not the norm.

I do have an adversion to homosexuality. I admit it. I discovered recently my rational side realizes this adversion isn't rational and an internal conflict began between this rational side and the knee-jerk reactionary side. I tried to explore this and possibly overcome it like an alcoholic must admit there is a problem before an understanding of that problem can be acheived, then you move on to (for the lack of a better word) 'healing'.

Didn't work out so well. I tried to begin my exploration here. Well, because you folks are the only homos I know with whom I've ever had any interactions with.

I regret using this place as a source of understanding as I really should have known better with this lot!

So yeah, homosexuality is natural and abnormal. There was no discussion about the end results of a natural abnormality.

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Pancake bunny. I had no idea what you were talking about, so I posted a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head.

[Edwardo Piet]

It was suggested 'natural' was the better descriptor. I am arguing it is not a better descriptor as it may be 'natural' as 'produced in nature', but so are diseases.

Diseases are harmful homosexuality isn't.

[DeistPaladin]

I forgot how absurd your views are when it comes to sexuality Dotard. Thanks for the laughs.

Just goes to show you that just because you're an atheist doesn't necessarily mean you're rational.

It's a strong correlation but not an inherent characteristic.

[OnlyNatural]

It's interesting how other natural traits that are 'abnormal' (lefthandedness, blue eyes and blonde hair, very high IQ) rarely elicit such moral condemnation, if at all.

There's just something about homosexuality... I think some guys think to themselves: 'Ugh, I'd never want to have sex with another guy,' and then they project this disgust onto individuals who do engage in these acts, considering them disgusting and immoral.

[Skipper]

It's interesting how other natural traits that are 'abnormal' (lefthandedness, blue eyes and blonde hair, very high IQ) rarely elicit such moral condemnation, if at all.

Dotard...any thoughts on that?

[DeistPaladin]

There's just something about homosexuality... I think some guys think to themselves: 'Ugh, I'd never want to have sex with another guy,' and then they project this disgust onto individuals who do engage in these acts, considering them disgusting and immoral.

Studies have shown that actually the opposite is true. The more heterosexual a man is, the less homophobic.

By "more heterosexual", I mean that sexuality exists on a continuum. The lines between straight, bi and gay are actually not as distinct as we commonly think. The Kinsey study in particular theorized a 0-5 scale, with 5 being almost purely gay and 0 being almost purely straight.

Another study featured men who were broken into two groups, one that was comfortable around openly gay men and one that was homophobic. They then showed these men lesbian porn to establish that they found women attractive. They then showed these men gay porn. The men who were turned on to the lesbian porn but not the gay porn were the ones who were comfortable being around gay men. The men who were turned on to both were the homophobic men. The conclusion was that homophobic men were more likely to be repressed bisexuals.

[OnlyNatural]

There's just something about homosexuality... I think some guys think to themselves: 'Ugh, I'd never want to have sex with another guy,' and then they project this disgust onto individuals who do engage in these acts, considering them disgusting and immoral.

Studies have shown that actually the opposite is true. The more heterosexual a man is, the less homophobic.

The conclusion was that homophobic men were more likely to be repressed bisexuals.

Hmm, you're right, I forgot about this theory. Maybe gay sex does attract some men, but they're repulsed by their own attraction, or are in denial. They only appear on the outside to be super-straight, whereas inside it might be a different story.

[Ashendant]

There's just something about homosexuality... I think some guys think to themselves: 'Ugh, I'd never want to have sex with another guy,' and then they project this disgust onto individuals who do engage in these acts, considering them disgusting and immoral.

Studies have shown that actually the opposite is true. The more heterosexual a man is, the less homophobic.

By "more heterosexual", I mean that sexuality exists on a continuum. The lines between straight, bi and gay are actually not as distinct as we commonly think. The Kinsey study in particular theorized a 0-5 scale, with 5 being almost purely gay and 0 being almost purely straight.

Another study featured men who were broken into two groups, one that was comfortable around openly gay men and one that was homophobic. They then showed these men lesbian porn to establish that they found women attractive. They then showed these men gay porn. The men who were turned on to the lesbian porn but not the gay porn were the ones who were comfortable being around gay men. The men who were turned on to both were the homophobic men. The conclusion was that homophobic men were more likely to be repressed bisexuals.

I'm a Pomosexual go check it up

[Dotard]

There's just something about homosexuality... I think some guys think to themselves: 'Ugh, I'd never want to have sex with another guy,' and then they project this disgust onto individuals who do engage in these acts, considering them disgusting and immoral.

Yes. This is exactly what happens. So what? You may tell someone who is eating brussel sprouts "Ugh! That's disgusting!" And no one thinks twice about it. I tell a dude who's sucking a dick "Ugh! That's disgusting!" and I'm irrational, a bigot, a homophobe, etc. etc.

Calling a dude disgusting for sucking a dick does not make me have an irrational fear of homosexuals anymore than you calling me disgusting for eating brussel sprouts makes you have an irrational fear of brussel sprouts.

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I should have know you homos would start with the "If you dislike homosexuals it means you are a homosexual" bullshit.

About as worthy an arguement as me claiming if you don't like heterosexual homophobes then you must be a hetrosexual homophobe.

[DeistPaladin]

There's just something about homosexuality... I think some guys think to themselves: 'Ugh, I'd never want to have sex with another guy,' and then they project this disgust onto individuals who do engage in these acts, considering them disgusting and immoral.

Yes. This is exactly what happens. So what? ...

Calling a dude disgusting for sucking a dick does not make me have an irrational fear of homosexuals anymore than you calling me disgusting for eating brussel sprouts makes you have an irrational fear of brussel sprouts.

I think brussel sprouts are disgusting too. That doesn't mean I can't hang out with sprout-eaters. It doesn't mean I think something is morally wrong with them. It doesn't mean I need to discriminate against them.