Why are Christians so full of hate?

[Drich]

So to review:

For choosing to use a translation that was published less than half a century ago, was deliberately put together to use modern English (not a "thou" or "shalt" to be found) and is one of the most popular (and perhaps THE most popular) English translations today...

... and for quoting a verse in which Christians are told they must hate from the NIV in direct response to your challenge, rather than quoting from whichever translation you are employing... in an argument about Christianity generally, in which the role of the more popular translations in shaping Christian conduct are more applicable than the less-popular ones...

I am a douche bag -- your words -- quoting from a dead dialect -- your words -- and have done so not because it is one of the most rational translations to choose in this context, and also not because I'm only familiar with a few translations rather than having the vast familiarity of some sort of a Biblical sommelier, but rather because I am cherry-picking and must be trying to make it say whatever I want -- again, your words.

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Well, THIS is obviously a charming, rational, sensible individual who clearly has great value to contribute to the dialogue.  It would definitely be very productive and not at all be a waste of time or source of constant frustration to engage with him.

*inaugurates his ignore list by adding a fucking douche bag to it*

The guy is a dishonest disingenuous debater that tries to cheat his way out of arguments, and I thought pride was a sin, obviously not for that fellow.

what the f do you know I have NEVER even spoken to you about anything at length.. all you could possible know is what the people here whom I have repeatedly and systematical taken apart over the years.

Are you too frighten to put your own self out there to think for your self? are you so afraid of being humiliated that you will allow others to do your thinking for you? you have 30 posts and what a few day here, with no real inneraction with me, yet you speak as an expert.

That my friend is a shinning example of a disingenuous and dishonest assessment. you have no debate experience with me and yet you speak as if you do.
yet you do not care. because integrity means nothing to you or people like you. you see a band wagon and you jump on it rather than get your own hands dirty.. you sport are a human lemming. You just follow the crowd and mirror what they think even if they all jump off a cliff.

That said here is another place where you are wrong. Pride in God is never a sin. I have made no bones about where my wisdom comes from, and I know I would be nothing without the guidance of the Holy Spirit and direct access to God. My pride is in the fact that He would use me to set his record straight here. And in following in the foot steps of Christ I have no qualms in humiliating, embarrassing, the religious know it alls here I have no problem making the wise and learned look foolish and I have no problems putting people who pretend to teach or represent God's law in full check. 

Do you want to know why I've been here so long and why I have over 10,000 posts? because 1 I can and do operate with n the rules. 2 I make a legitimate effort to accurately represent the Christian side of the debate. Just because none of your peers could ever breach that wall is not about me or my ability. it because they are foolishly arguing against God's word. I have simply been used as one who wields this sword.

You know maybe you should also put me on ignore so you do not have to ever respond and loose, then if you stick around you can say you never lost a debate with me.

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what hypocrisy.. you blame God and other Christians for those who do not understand who they worship... Again hate is a human trait that people bring into the church and then use anything they can to justify their hate. look at the venom on the atheist side towards the christian members here.. does it take eternal hell for them to muster this hate? look at some of the crazy left wing political groups, i don't know one who claims to represent the church. look at the hate and intolerance there is in those groups for trump and his followers. people have much hate in them and they use whatever they are passionate about to direct their hate. this is not a church thing. this is a bad person thing.

An impressive way to change the subject.  Yes indeed, hatred is a human problem.  But the discussion was specifically about how Christians rationalize their hatred.

Actually christian hatred is the OP of this thread. I simply tied what you said back to the topic being discussed.

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meaning what I said above... christians can not hate or literally by God's word they are not saved. Hence Hate is a human problem not a christian problem

[Alan V]

what the f do you know I have NEVER even spoken to you about anything at length.. all you could possible know is what the people here whom I have repeatedly and systematical taken apart over the years.

Are you too frighten to put your own self out there to think for your self? are you so afraid of being humiliated that you will allow others to do your thinking for you? you have 30 posts and what a few day here, with no real inneraction with me, yet you speak as an expert.

That my friend is a shinning example of a disingenuous and dishonest assessment. you have no debate experience with me and yet you speak as if you do.
yet you do not care. because integrity means nothing to you or people like you. you see a band wagon and you jump on it rather than get your own hands dirty.. you sport are a human lemming. You just follow the crowd and mirror what they think even if they all jump off a cliff.

That said here is another place where you are wrong. Pride in God is never a sin. I have made no bones about where my wisdom comes from, and I know I would be nothing without the guidance of the Holy Spirit and direct access to God. My pride is in the fact that He would use me to set his record straight here. And in following in the foot steps of Christ I have no qualms in humiliating, embarrassing, the religious know it alls here I have no problem making the wise and learned look foolish and I have no problems putting people who pretend to teach or represent God's law in full check. 

Do you want to know why I've been here so long and why I have over 10,000 posts? because 1 I can and do operate with n the rules. 2 I make a legitimate effort to accurately represent the Christian side of the debate. Just because none of your peers could ever breach that wall is not about me or my ability. it because they are foolishly arguing against God's word. I have simply been used as one who wields this sword.

You know maybe you should also put me on ignore so you do not have to ever respond and loose, then if you stick around you can say you never lost a debate with me.

^^^^^^^ Christian love.

Drich -- Thanks for answering the question of why Christians hate.

[adey67]

what hypocrisy.. you blame God and other Christians for those who do not understand who they worship... Again hate is a human trait that people bring into the church and then use anything they can to justify their hate. look at the venom on the atheist side towards the christian members here.. does it take eternal hell for them to muster this hate? look at some of the crazy left wing political groups, i don't know one who claims to represent the church. look at the hate and intolerance there is in those groups for trump and his followers. people have much hate in them and they use whatever they are passionate about to direct their hate. this is not a church thing. this is a bad person thing.

An impressive way to change the subject.  Yes indeed, hatred is a human problem.  But the discussion was specifically about how Christians rationalize their hatred.

just like I said brother
, did you seriously expect anything else than parlor tricks from this type of christian ? If so then shame for your naivety my friend.

[Drich]

[I_am_not_mafia]

why do you douche bags quote from a dead dialect?

Oh the irony of a Xtian immediately calling people douche bags on a thread asking why Xtians are full of hate.

[Joods]

God's an imaginary asshole. And a stupid imaginary asshole.

[I_am_not_mafia]

To be fair to most Christians it only seems to be the American ones who are hateful. They are trying to spread the toxic brand world wide, but mostly over in the UK at least, people just look at that sort with pity.

I'll agree with that. I suppose that makes American Xtianity the equivalent of Saudi Arabia's Wahhabism.

[Drich]

An impressive way to change the subject.  Yes indeed, hatred is a human problem.  But the discussion was specifically about how Christians rationalize their hatred.

just like I said brother
, did you seriously expect anything else than parlor tricks from this type of christian ? If so then shame for your naivety my friend.

What a dishonest assessment.

or keep reading!

I provided an answer the Thor did not understand completely, he thought it was 2 different subjects when my answer was to tie the subjects together in a way he had not considered. Giving him the idea i was changing the subject when in fact I broaden the subject to include what he initially did not think about or dismissed.

In the hate is a human problem as Christian are forbidden to hate or they will not be saved. hence not Christian hence not a christian problem.

[Minimalist]

[adey67]

The guy is a dishonest disingenuous debater that tries to cheat his way out of arguments, and I thought pride was a sin, obviously not for that fellow.

what the f do you know I have NEVER even spoken to you about anything at length.. all you could possible know is what the people here whom I have repeatedly and systematical taken apart over the years.

Are you too frighten to put your own self out there to think for your self? are you so afraid of being humiliated that you will allow others to do your thinking for you? you have 30 posts and what a few day here, with no real inneraction with me, yet you speak as an expert.

That my friend is a shinning example of a disingenuous and dishonest assessment. you have no debate experience with me and yet you speak as if you do.
yet you do not care. because integrity means nothing to you or people like you. you see a band wagon and you jump on it rather than get your own hands dirty.. you sport are a human lemming. You just follow the crowd and mirror what they think even if they all jump off a cliff.

That said here is another place where you are wrong. Pride in God is never a sin. I have made no bones about where my wisdom comes from, and I know I would be nothing without the guidance of the Holy Spirit and direct access to God. My pride is in the fact that He would use me to set his record straight here. And in following in the foot steps of Christ I have no qualms in humiliating, embarrassing, the religious know it alls here I have no problem making the wise and learned look foolish and I have no problems putting people who pretend to teach or represent God's law in full check. 

Do you want to know why I've been here so long and why I have over 10,000 posts? because 1 I can and do operate with n the rules. 2 I make a legitimate effort to accurately represent the Christian side of the debate. Just because none of your peers could ever breach that wall is not about me or my ability. it because they are foolishly arguing against God's word. I have simply been used as one who wields this sword.

You know maybe you should also put me on ignore so you do not have to ever respond and loose, then if you stick around you can say you never lost a debate with me.

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An impressive way to change the subject.  Yes indeed, hatred is a human problem.  But the discussion was specifically about how Christians rationalize their hatred.

Actually christian hatred is the OP of this thread. I simply tied what you said back to the topic being discussed.

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meaning what I said above... christians can not hate or literally by God's word they are not saved. Hence Hate is a human problem not a christian problem

Ha Ha Ha, nope, I don't think I'll put you on ignore you're too fucking amusing, anyone who needs to invoke how long they have been here and how many posts they have made in comparison to me and who gets so butt hurt by a newbie sniffing them out is actually clearly seriously bothered by what I said and if I was so insignificant then why even bother responding oh prideful one ? BTW its lose not loose, if you're gonna go head to head with others spelling is important, its my experience that the more angry a person gets and the more disturbed they feel then the more likely they are to make typos and spelling mistakes. Truth is you do not like being contradicted you cannot abide the thought of a world without a magical deity and you cannot stand that perhaps there are people who don't believe there is a god, their disbelief offends you and makes you feel insecure and the anger boils up.
I thank you though, I'm learning so much from you, as in what not to do or how not to be, thanks so much for that I really appreciate it.