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Poll: What is wrong with theist beliefs?
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Are they delusional?
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Is it an illusion?
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Are they just plain crazy?
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4 25.00%
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What is wrong with theistic beliefs?
#61
RE: What is wrong with theistic beliefs?
(November 17, 2018 at 6:52 pm)Aliza Wrote:
(November 17, 2018 at 6:28 pm)Whateverist Wrote: But I suppose most thoughtful theists would hope it can also be an amplifier for their better nature.  Becoming convinced and defensive about it being where it all goes to hell.  

@Aliza: Thats "sheol" for you, BTW.  Wink

I don't get it. What about sheol.

No self-respecting Jew runs around going, "Omg! You're totally going to sheol when you die!!!" For Judaism, sheol does not serve the same purpose that hell does for Christians. Sheol isn't a threat. ... Judaism teaches that it's just where everyone goes when they die; good, bad, atheist, and theist. It's like a storage container for souls that are stripped of their identity, personality and consciousness.


Yeah I heard about that once from someone over at TTA.

Once my soul has been scrubbed of everything that made it mine it hardly matters to me in what manner it is stored.  Explains the jew's greater emphasis on the living world than the magical special one you might win by treating the actual one with complete indifference.  Of course I don't worry much about my 'soul' past the point that it informs my sense of self.  Past that I don't anticipate having any further use for it.
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#62
RE: What is wrong with theistic beliefs?
(November 17, 2018 at 8:21 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Following falsehood at the end, to stick to idols in the form scholars or clergy, will not be accepted by God. Muslims, Jews, Christians, are all the same in this respect.  And those who strive and begin to break these idols, they will follow the truth of the light of the Prophets and Guiding Kings for their people, but one must prioritize obeying God.

You can't knowingly disobey God to obey people.  And Muslims and Shiites as well, are notorious for this.  They abandon God's book when having to a make decision between following their clergy or Quran. And it hasn't lead to unity either, but more and more divisions.

Idols in the heart; had they loved God more, they would have disobeyed their clergy and commanded the good that they know God commanded and forbid the evil they know God forbid.

Then get back to us when you've handled your own imam problem, k?
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#63
RE: What is wrong with theistic beliefs?
What problem?
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#64
RE: What is wrong with theistic beliefs?
(November 17, 2018 at 9:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: What problem?

I can't be bothered to go and find a recording of a Saturn V rocket flying overhead. I'll settle for FWOOSH.
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#65
RE: What is wrong with theistic beliefs?
(November 16, 2018 at 7:04 pm)Whateverist Wrote: But I'd like to know what we atheists think is wrong with theistic thinking in most cases.  

Nothing. I wouldn't even waste much time thinking about theistic thinking. What the hell for? There better things to think of. 

Perhaps the delusion is that there is something wrong with theistic thinking to begin with or that they must be "suffering" from something. 

Or the self righteous attitude that one is more superior to another because of what they believe or disbelieve in.
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#66
RE: What is wrong with theistic beliefs?
(November 30, 2018 at 12:12 am)energizer bunny Wrote:
(November 16, 2018 at 7:04 pm)Whateverist Wrote: But I'd like to know what we atheists think is wrong with theistic thinking in most cases.  

Nothing. I wouldn't even waste much time thinking about theistic thinking. What the hell for? There better things to think of. 

Perhaps the delusion is that there is something wrong with theistic thinking to begin with or that they must be "suffering" from something. 

Or the self righteous attitude that one is more superior to another because of what they believe or disbelieve in.

Personally, I'm only concerned with theists' beliefs when they intrude them into our lives, which is all too common these days.
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