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transgender military ban to go into effect
#11
RE: transgender military ban to go into effect
You sillyhead, freedom isn't for everyone.
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#12
RE: transgender military ban to go into effect
(January 22, 2019 at 2:08 pm)Yonadav Wrote:
(January 22, 2019 at 1:56 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: This thought went through a very warped brain --

" We wouldn't want some immoral deviant to go kill people for us..."




....


Tut Tut

We don't call it killing anymore. We call it 'winning hearts and minds'.  We wouldn't want some immoral deviant to go winning hearts and minds for us. See how much different that sounds?

Dayum...

You' re right.


Can' t have that!!!


Wacky
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#13
RE: transgender military ban to go into effect
This is a bill who's only purpose is playing to the worst elements of Trumps base
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#14
RE: transgender military ban to go into effect
(January 22, 2019 at 5:21 pm)Amarok Wrote: This is a bill who's only purpose is playing to the worst elements of Trumps base

Mostly.  It's a wet dream for the Mike Pence side of things.  

I dunno.  I've never been a big fan of the military so I can't say I'm too worked up over this.  I'm 40 and still a bit overweight, so the military isn't going to want me, anyway.  But I still kinda think it's stupid to ban people just for being trans.  

Personally, I wish we had fewer soldiers in general and used those soldiers a lot less.  Get started on that and we can worry about transgender soldiers.
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#15
RE: transgender military ban to go into effect
IMO, gender dysphoria is a disease about as much as homosexuality is a disease. It’s the way that society responds to these people that makes it so insufferable for them to live as they are. If transgendered folks weren’t marginalized and bullied by society, I wonder how much more comfortable they’d be in their own skin. Maybe comfortable and happy enough to not be considered “sick” anymore.
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#16
RE: transgender military ban to go into effect
(January 24, 2019 at 11:28 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:  If transgendered folks weren’t marginalized and bullied by society, I wonder how much more comfortable they’d be in their own skin.  

Speaking for myself, I'd still be uncomfortable enough in my body that I would be attempting to change it.  But if I had that kind of acceptance when I was a teenager, maybe I would have changed my body before testosterone had fucked it up so much.  Your body makes a lot of changes in that 11-19 range and trans people who start the hormonal aspect of transtion in that window often wind up looking a lot better for it.
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#17
RE: transgender military ban to go into effect
Meh, the DOD said they weren't interested in the ban anyway.  

A hell of alot of people sign up explicitly for medical benefits, Yonadev.   That's not really "a problem", it's part of their recruiting strategy.
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#18
RE: transgender military ban to go into effect
(January 24, 2019 at 11:48 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Meh, the DOD said they weren't interested in the ban anyway.  

A hell of alot of people sign up explicitly for medical benefits, Yonadev.   That's not really "a problem", it's part of their recruiting strategy.

It's a problem when Mike Pence is your VP.  Hell, to him, the very fact that we exist without being set on fire is a problem.  And I have to imagine the Republican base would collectively wet themselves if they knew that the VA was actually spending money helping trans people with hormones (even if it's already happening).
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#19
RE: transgender military ban to go into effect
Sure, they're not going to stop trying.  The DOD, for now anyway, appears to be looking to wait out the disaster of our current president. The economically anxious folks who get night sweats at the thought of some trans soldier recieving exactly what the service baited them in with are worried about their own problem. They're assholes.
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#20
RE: transgender military ban to go into effect
(January 25, 2019 at 12:20 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Sure, they're not going to stop trying.  The DOD, for now anyway, appears to be looking to wait out the disaster of our current president.  The economically anxious folks who get night sweats at the thought of some trans soldier recieving exactly what the service baited them in with are worried about their own problem.  They're assholes.

No kidding.  I mean, there is no end to the irony that the republican party says they want a small government that doesn't intrude on peoples lives, but when it comes to me, they want Uncle Sam to look whip my pants right off and get a good, long, close look at what's under them.  

Not to mention, their ideas of an unintrusive government go out the window when it comes to abortion, too.  And they sure do think government agents (aka Cops) should get free reign to shoot whoever they want for whatever reason they want (which REALLY clashes with some of their NRA rhetoric).  

Is it too much for me to ask them for a little consistancy?
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