Cardinal George Pell.

[Godscreated]

 The commandment is "murder." We have a better understanding of the old Hebrew language than when the scriptures were first translated into English, the Hebrew doesn't translate well into nearly all languages. So no double standard, atheist are the ones who pick and choose their own standards to fit the occasion even if it has to change within that occasion to suit their need. So the hypocrite would in all actuality be you.

GC

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  There is no such commandment, study the scriptures and also the time in which these people lived and their customs.

GC

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

What was that? A mere guideline?

 Did you really believe I did not know about that verse. Go back and read what FB posted and then the verses and see where the errors are, think you could possibly accomplish this task. Then go and read up on the culture of the time and see if the verses make sense as per the culture. This shouldn't take you over a couple of weeks and you want have to disagree with what I would tell you, you will know the reason.

GC

[The Grand Nudger]

So....you reckon that's not murder?   Some kids just need killin?  

[fredd bear]

So....you reckon that's not murder?   Some kids just need killin?  

Nah, just apologetics 101.

A common ploy is to wilfully misinterpret  scripture ,when it contradicts dogma.

This peanut is an amateur.   Try having an argument with a Jesuit or Passionist  theologian.

EG Once spent an interesting evening with a Catholic apologist arguing that the word "usury" means "giving loans at unreasonable interest" and always has. That's actually a bare faced lie. 'Usury' actually means lending money at ANY interest". Something Muslims fully understand; to lend money at interest is haram . (Muslims banks make "service charges ' instead, and pay no interest on deposits.)

This simple concept is closely linked with over 1000 years of European antisemitism.   Some semantics are important.

A much bigger example of willful   misinterpretation  is from the Gospel of Matthew where  Jesus says he has not come to change the law by "a jot or a tittle"(English translation)--before you know it, Paul has abolished all of Mosaic law dealing with ritual.

The claim that Jesus met prophesy for the Messiah  is another barefaced lie. ---check Jewish sources, after all, he's their Moshiach.(messiah)
 

Matthew 5:18

(King James Bible) "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Generally speaking protestant apologists aren't a patch on the Catholics. This is because the proddies tend to be weak in theology, but mainly because the Catholics had over 1000 years head start. 


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I find our Muslim  member's  bigotry against Christian morality quite hilarious: Christian morality comes from the Torah.  Sharai law is based on Mosiac law, and great a chunks of the Quran have been lifted from the Torah   These claims make your common or garden variety Muslim bigot apoplectic  , even though they can be easily verified by reading the Quran and Torah together. 

 I needed to read the Quran at university as part of a course. One of the first things I noticed was the similarity of some passages with the Torah

[fredd bear]

George Pell has been sentenced to 6 years in prison.

Non Parole period of 3 years 8 months.

Under our laws, that means he will serve a total of about 30 months.

There will almost certainly ban appeal against the severity of the sentence His sentence may be reduced, so he serves only about a year. OR may be overturned on appeal. This is relatively rare in Australia, our judges write excellent sentencing remarks, so their decisions are rarely changed.

[The Grand Nudger]

This peanut is an amateur.   Try having an argument with a Jesuit or Passionist  theologian.

LOL, I was educated by jesuits.

[fredd bear]

This peanut is an amateur.   Try having an argument with a Jesuit or Passionist  theologian.

LOL, I was educated by jesuits.

 Poor bastard.

Although, probably a lot better than the De La Salle shower who  'educated' me. They had two responses to any difficult theological question, such as say the trinity: "It's a mystery of faith, we just believe ".  The other response was to hit you for being 'cheeky'. (late 1950's early 1960's)

My Irish Catholic father? Ring Lardner expressed dad's approach best:  "Shut up, he explained" .
Ah memories. I still fantasise about driving a petrol tanker to that school while it's on fire, with all the brothers inside.  

-------Wont' happen; pretty sure they're all dead. Most of them actually left the order and got married, There was ONE I liked and respected. He ran off with the school librarian. I was very impressed..

[Godscreated]

Nah, just apologetics 101.
A common ploy is to wilfully misinterpret  scripture ,when it contradicts dogma.

This peanut is an amateur.   

Matthew 5:18
(King James Bible) "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

  Tell me what did Jesus mean by "till all be fulfilled." You haven't answered any questions I've asked you and I suspect you want this one either.

GC

[The Grand Nudger]

"Jesus" never said any such thing.  Some apocalyptic nutter who thought that the world was going to end any minute then crammed those words into the mouth of a demigod.

Didn't exactly age well, lol....