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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 6:16 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2019 at 6:20 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(July 15, 2019 at 6:02 pm)Cecelia Wrote: (July 15, 2019 at 5:52 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Sorry it went down like this, OLB. I would have actually enjoyed following a detailed discussion about the enforcement of immigration law, because it is a subject on which I’m not well-versed. Unfortunately, outrage politics beat you out.
If he wanted an open and honest discussion, then perhaps he should've left out his faux outrage over 'open borders' at the door? Just a thought. You know, instead of letting him frame the conversation in such a way that frames those who disagree with him in a certain way.
It seems to me he never wanted a discussion over immigration, just another chance to attack those who he disagrees with. This has emerged as a pattern with him.
I don’t have much experience interacting with OLB, so I’m trying to be fair and give him the benefit of the doubt rather than jump on a bandwagon.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 6:21 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2019 at 6:21 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I’m not from TTA, and I do have experience interacting with OLB, but who cares, he just flat out told us the point of this thread in his own words was to make assholes squirm.
He’s a nice guy, I’m sure he’s very fine peopke, on both sides ( couldn’t help it). He just has a common blind spot on this issue, common to a significant number of Americans.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 6:28 pm
(July 15, 2019 at 6:14 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (July 15, 2019 at 6:05 pm)Amarok Wrote: If only he showed any actual signs of that
It doesn’t seem like anyone gave him the chance. *shrugs* Considering his pattern the results seem predictable
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 6:31 pm
(July 15, 2019 at 6:16 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t have much experience interacting with OLB, so I’m trying to be fair and give him the benefit of the doubt rather than jump on a bandwagon.
When someone attempts to frame discussion in a way that creates strawmen, I'm not sure they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
When OLB asked "What should they do"
My response was "Not run concentration camps"
What was his response in turn?
(July 2, 2019 at 10:39 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (July 2, 2019 at 10:20 am)Cecelia Wrote: "Not run concentration camps" seems like a pretty good answer 110% of the time.
Uh huh..
Where are you going to keep all the unprocessed immigrants?
You going to let them have your place?
It's clear that on the issue of immigration, OLB is not interested in an honest discussion. He only wants to frame people in as negative light as possible. I will not be an enabler of that.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 7:59 pm
(July 15, 2019 at 6:31 pm)Cecelia Wrote: (July 15, 2019 at 6:16 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t have much experience interacting with OLB, so I’m trying to be fair and give him the benefit of the doubt rather than jump on a bandwagon.
When someone attempts to frame discussion in a way that creates strawmen, I'm not sure they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
When OLB asked "What should they do"
My response was "Not run concentration camps"
What was his response in turn?
(July 2, 2019 at 10:39 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Uh huh..
Where are you going to keep all the unprocessed immigrants?
You going to let them have your place?
It's clear that on the issue of immigration, OLB is not interested in an honest discussion. He only wants to frame people in as negative light as possible. I will not be an enabler of that.
Bwahahaha...
Jesus you people are predictable.
Don' t address the question.
Question the poster' s intent.
Then pat yourself on the back at your brilliance for not having answered a question.....
I could go to the Jebusboards and get that kind of lame action.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 8:07 pm
(July 15, 2019 at 6:31 pm)Cecelia Wrote: (July 15, 2019 at 6:16 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t have much experience interacting with OLB, so I’m trying to be fair and give him the benefit of the doubt rather than jump on a bandwagon.
When someone attempts to frame discussion in a way that creates strawmen, I'm not sure they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
When OLB asked "What should they do"
My response was "Not run concentration camps"
What was his response in turn?
(July 2, 2019 at 10:39 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Uh huh..
Where are you going to keep all the unprocessed immigrants?
You going to let them have your place?
It's clear that on the issue of immigration, OLB is not interested in an honest discussion. He only wants to frame people in as negative light as possible. I will not be an enabler of that.
^^^^^^^ SO MUCH THIS......
He's simply another person who has bought the politics of fear, and he doesn't simply do that with this topic.
I agree.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 8:16 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2019 at 8:20 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You’ve been given at least two very direct answers to your completely dishonest question, man.
There’s only so much bitching you can do about others not addressing your q before it becomes an even more transparent farce.
Another poster didn’t humor you -at all/ and flat out told you that we didn’t actually have to choose between hunting down brown people and open borders.
So you have options as to what you decide to respond to.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 8:29 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2019 at 8:41 pm by Amarok.)
Quote: Bwahahaha...
Are you auditioning for the part of Dr Evil ?
Quote:Jesus you people are predictable.
Says the man who has essentially used the same comment twice and really who's whole posting history might as well be the same comment .
Quote:Don' t address the question.
Don't address your dishonest question because we see right through you
Quote: Question the poster' s intent.
Base our judgement on past experience of dealing with your bullshit
Quote:Then pat yourself on the back at your brilliance for not having answered a question.....
Nah will pat ourselves on the back for not humoring your dishonest question
Quote:I could go to the Jebusboards and get that kind of lame action.
You should go there then you can ask disingenuous questions and act like an asshole with the fundies .I'm sure you will fit right in . Say hi to all the fundie assholes we kicked off this forum.
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RE: Open borders
July 15, 2019 at 11:00 pm
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Quote: No. A couple people from TTA who had issues with OLB
Issues like him being a lying asshole
Quote:brought that here and painted their picture of OLB from the start.
Nope brought the fact he's a disingenuous asshole
Quote:The pattern is more with those who jump in any time he posts and have a fit.
Nah it's more he posts dishonest shit and based on our experience with him we call him out on it . Then he has a fit for being called out .
Quote: If he posted that the sky is blue this little posse would argue it till their typing fingers bled.
Nope he would say the sky is green then whine endlessly when we call him out on it .And by posse you mean people who won't put up with his bullshit .
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RE: Open borders
July 16, 2019 at 8:41 am
(July 15, 2019 at 8:29 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote: Bwahahaha...
Are you auditioning for the part of Dr Evil ?
Quote:Jesus you people are predictable.
Says the man who has essentially used the same comment twice and really who's whole posting history might as well be the same comment .
Quote:Don' t address the question.
Don't address your dishonest question because we see right through you
Quote: Question the poster' s intent.
Base our judgement on past experience of dealing with your bullshit
Quote:Then pat yourself on the back at your brilliance for not having answered a question.....
Nah will pat ourselves on the back for not humoring your dishonest question
Quote:I could go to the Jebusboards and get that kind of lame action.
You should go there then you can ask disingenuous questions and act like an asshole with the fundies .I'm sure you will fit right in . Say hi to all the fundie assholes we kicked off this forum.
I " see right through you" too...
You' re a twat with a screen door...
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