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Open borders
RE: Open borders
(July 18, 2019 at 11:06 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: That’s probably part of why he’s the veep, lol

Pence is the man behind the curtain, the emperor Palpatine. I don't fear Trump. I do fear Pence.
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That’s certainly not the impression that anyone gets about him. He’s a loathsome human being, sure...but more of a dashboard decoration than a plotting mastermind. - and he can’t get a decent crowd amped up to save his life.

I’d say we have plenty to fear from a guy leading hate rallies from the highest office in the land.

Obviously, it depends a bit on our particular shade of lipstick, but still. Even that has a ticking clock. How long until trumps base realizes that there are a bunch of miscegenated subhumans in their ranks? Gonna lock em up / send em back to Africa too?
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(July 18, 2019 at 11:16 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: That’s certainly not the impression that anyone gets about him.  He’s a loathsome human being, sure...but more of a dashboard decoration than a plotting mastermind.

Trump is not a "true believe". His evangelical supporters know this well. Pence is there to keep the evangelicals in line. Pence is a "true believer". The anti-transgender stuff from Trump is all Pence. The abortion policies, all Pence. Anything Trump promotes that is for his evangelical supporters--that's Pence. Im assuming you know of Pence's history in Indiana--he was this country's last hurrah of State governments attempting to make discrimination against gay people legal under the banner of religious liberty. Betsy DeVoss--that's a Pence inspired selection. Pence's fingerprints are all over Trump's government appointments. There were some notable Trumpy appointments (Tillerson, Haley, Carson), but anything neocon or traditional GOP is all Pence.
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(July 18, 2019 at 11:12 am)BryanS Wrote:
(July 18, 2019 at 11:06 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: That’s probably part of why he’s the veep, lol

Pence is the man behind the curtain, the emperor Palpatine. I don't fear Trump. I do fear Pence.

I disagree. Pence is an asshole, but he scares me far less than the orange turd.
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Yeah? I’m aware of him being s liathesome human being... but what one can also draw from his time in Indiana....is that he’s completely ineffective.

Our president is holding hate rallies...and he’s good at it. I would prefer neocons and paleocons to that. Hell, mainline dems, today... -are- paleocons.

It would be a step backwards, but at least a step up out of the gutter where ideas like the OPs come from.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(July 18, 2019 at 11:30 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Yeah? I’m aware of him being s liathesome human being... but what one can also draw from his time in Indiana....is that he’s completely ineffective.

Our president is holding hate rallies...and he’s good at it.

BINGO!

So all this bullshit talk by the orange bully and his defenders has nothing to do with problem solving. It is all simply the politics of fear.
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I can't emmit an informed opinion on this due to lack of information. To shed the fog, what is ICE?
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(July 18, 2019 at 12:19 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I can't emmit an informed opinion on this due to lack of information. To shed the fog, what is ICE?

"Immigration Customs Enforcement"
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This thread pisses me off every time I open it.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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Obv., OLB wasn’t all that interested in talking immigration law, lol.
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Wiser words were never spoken. 
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