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Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
#41
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(April 19, 2020 at 12:45 pm)chimp3 Wrote: I am not convinced.

You have the total right to choose your way.
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#42
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
Our right, lol..gee..thanks. Seems like this "right" comes with caveats.

If we choose to express this total right, and some living muslim nutbar doesn't execute us for it, we'll end up with lead in our anus in hell. Or whatever other assplay the islamic god gets his kink out of in this verse or that verse of magic book.

-all because you felt the need to argue that the warlord in magic book, who you think had good reason™ to be a caravan thief, wasn't a caravan thief, and that saying out loud what magic book says and what you believe about big mo is....somehow... insulting.

Are you trying to get people skewered with this nonsense? OFC people aren't going to find it compelling, it isn't even cogent.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#43
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(April 19, 2020 at 1:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Our right, lol..gee..thanks.   Seems like this "right" comes with caveats.

If we choose to express this total right, and some living muslim nutbar doesn't execute us for it, we'll end up with lead in our anus in hell.  Or whatever other assplay the islamic god gets his kink out of in this verse or that verse of magic book.

-all because you felt the need to argue that the warlord in magic book, who you think had good reason™ to be a caravan thief, wasn't a caravan thief, and that saying out loud what magic book says and what you believe about big mo is....somehow... insulting.  

Are you trying to get people skewered with this nonsense?  OFC people aren't going to find it compelling, it isn't even cogent.

What God decides to do with you is his own business; not mine. I am a mere reminder and a reciter of his message.

In this life, no other human has the right to hurt you without you hurting them first.
If you don't believe in God or his message, then why do you care?
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#44
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
People who do believe in this god, and it's message, are actors in the real world. That's why. I'd think that would be as obvious as big mo raiding caravans for fun and profit.

Apropos of that, the fact that you so blithely disregard moongods plan for everyone else's genitalia while excusing yourself from fantasies which arise or appeal to your oddly limited imagination is an example of the same. It has consequences for real people, in the real world, not unlike the consequences for those poor fuckers who got raided.

But fuck them, right, you can't be bothered to care what the god you insist is so great plans on doing with them. Fine - but this religion obviously has consequences for you as well, demonstrated by your scatterbrained posts in this thread and any other. One bad plate of shrimp away....

All of that, is before we get into you babbling about gods plan as though you believe in it, or believe that it's none of your business. When gods plan is a drone strike from the great satan you seem to have an opinion - but on the issue of the grand cosmic wizard who will torture the people who don't agree with you for all eternity, and particularly after such an impressive failure to organize a single cogent argument for your faith...meh.

If you were the only muslim on earth, it would be clear to me that islam had still managed to commit at least one murder, judging by the husk it left where your soul could have been, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#45
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(April 19, 2020 at 2:12 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(April 19, 2020 at 1:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Our right, lol..gee..thanks.   Seems like this "right" comes with caveats.

If we choose to express this total right, and some living muslim nutbar doesn't execute us for it, we'll end up with lead in our anus in hell.  Or whatever other assplay the islamic god gets his kink out of in this verse or that verse of magic book.

-all because you felt the need to argue that the warlord in magic book, who you think had good reason™ to be a caravan thief, wasn't a caravan thief, and that saying out loud what magic book says and what you believe about big mo is....somehow... insulting.  

Are you trying to get people skewered with this nonsense?  OFC people aren't going to find it compelling, it isn't even cogent.

What God decides to do with you is his own business; not mine. I am a mere reminder and a reciter of his message.

In this life, no other human has the right to hurt you without you hurting them first.
If you don't believe in God or his message, then why do you care?

Because this 

[Image: images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQIvV_zh3TStJCweecGw..._&usqp=CAU]

was done by people who 'believe in God and his message.'  If Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs and all the rest of the god-botherers would simply get on with worship without barbecuing people who have the audacity to think differently, I wouldn't care in the least.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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#46
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
With the various gods of the world's magic books talking so much ridiculous shit about people who don't believe in them, and what they're going to do to people who don't believe in them - that's not a credible state for the body of theism. They say that the author of creation is an intervening entity with a shitlist. Violence isn't a bug of that sort of belief system, it's a feature.

I worry less, honestly, about some 9/11 - because that's nothing compared to the day to day cruelty and indifference.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#47
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(April 19, 2020 at 1:20 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(April 19, 2020 at 12:45 pm)chimp3 Wrote: I am not convinced.

You have the total right to choose your way.

Yes I do. With or without your permission.
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!






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#48
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(April 19, 2020 at 4:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 19, 2020 at 2:12 pm)WinterHold Wrote: What God decides to do with you is his own business; not mine. I am a mere reminder and a reciter of his message.

In this life, no other human has the right to hurt you without you hurting them first.
If you don't believe in God or his message, then why do you care?

Because this 

[Image: images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQIvV_zh3TStJCweecGw..._&usqp=CAU]

was done by people who 'believe in God and his message.'  If Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs and all the rest of the god-botherers would simply get on with worship without barbecuing people who have the audacity to think differently, I wouldn't care in the least.

Boru

9/11 ? seriously ?
But you ignored what led to this sad day, from the American/Soviet war, to the American arming of terrorists, to the American bombing of civilians worldwide, to the shameful American alliance with Saudi Arabia. That what led to 9/11, but you seem to have an OCD about sticking terrorist acts to Islam, forgetting that playing with psychopaths -like extremist Jihadists- leads to your hand being burned.

(April 19, 2020 at 4:31 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: With the various gods of the world's magic books talking so much ridiculous shit about people who don't believe in them, and what they're going to do to people who don't believe in them - that's not a credible state for the body of theism.  They say that the author of creation is an intervening entity with a shitlist.  Violence isn't a bug of that sort of belief system, it's a feature.

I worry less, honestly, about some 9/11 - because that's nothing compared to the day to day cruelty and indifference.

Your country is the first state in the world to use nuclear bombs against civilians, so you can lookout for your glass house before throwing stones.

(April 19, 2020 at 8:23 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(April 19, 2020 at 1:20 pm)WinterHold Wrote: You have the total right to choose your way.

Yes I do. With or without your permission.

Yes, you asked a question and I answered. I advice you to learn to respect who treats your questions seriously.
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#49
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
Many people here don't know how the revelation came to the prophet ,


https://questionsonislam.com/question/ho...revelation




"It sometimes came with a sound like the sound of a bell. That is the hardest one to me." (Bukhari, Badul-Wahy, 1/2; Mus­lim, Fa­da­il, 87)

Ahmed, Tabarani and Abu Nuaym narrate the following from Ibn Amr: He said, I asked, "O Messenger of Allah! Do you feel when revelation comes?" He gave the following answer:
Quote:"Yes revelation comes to me and I hear it like the ringing of a bell and I shiver and shake severely. Then, the shaking ends and I remain calm. I memorize exactly what is said to me. The revelation is so heavy that whenever it comes, I think, “I will die this time." 

Angel
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#50
RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(April 20, 2020 at 5:36 am)Ashwin39 Wrote: Many people here don't know how the revelation came to the prophet ,


https://questionsonislam.com/question/ho...revelation




"It sometimes came with a sound like the sound of a bell. That is the hardest one to me." (Bukhari, Badul-Wahy, 1/2; Mus­lim, Fa­da­il, 87)

Ahmed, Tabarani and Abu Nuaym narrate the following from Ibn Amr: He said, I asked, "O Messenger of Allah! Do you feel when revelation comes?" He gave the following answer:
Quote:"Yes revelation comes to me and I hear it like the ringing of a bell and I shiver and shake severely. Then, the shaking ends and I remain calm. I memorize exactly what is said to me. The revelation is so heavy that whenever it comes, I think, “I will die this time." 

Angel

I don't believe in the Hadith; in other words I stick only to the Quranic reference, I believe that "the Quran was revealed to Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him via the angel Gabriel" and that's it.
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