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angel story video form
#51
RE: angel story video form
(March 27, 2020 at 1:27 pm)Drich Wrote:
(March 26, 2020 at 11:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: This is neither a reason nor an explanation, it's just bald assertion.
actually it is not just an assertion.

Assertion: That which is stated without reason or evidence.

Quote:The answer to your question Why does God have servants, because as alpha and omega He can do what he wants.

As stated, this is neither a reason nor an explanation. It tells you that god is capricious, unfathomable, and wants servants. It doesn't tell you why.

Quote:
Quote:You still can't explain why your god wants servants. Start with why your god wants at all.
because again he is the alpha and omega. so why would an alpha and omega want? for anything?

It wouldn't. Deities don't have wants and needs.

Quote:clearly you did not read all of it. nor watched it. because again dude came from no where and appeared before me as fast as it takes to get out of a car and disappeared as fast as it took to do a uturn. which was demonstrated in the very parking lot.

Read. Unimpressed. It's a classic case of least impressive miracle. Something happened that you can't explain so it must be god taking a hand in your life. This same god that can't be bothered to have a word with Assad, Putin, or Trump. You must be a real damned important cheese sandwich.

Quote:
Quote:What part of the "I'm dodging my parole officer" bit did you miss? You were literally conned.
not dogging moron. he needed to get home before the parole officer called, and he was too far from home to make it on time.

Impressively non-Divine.

Quote:that was the story to get the ride

Bamboozling you with a lie is even less impressive.

The partitioning that you have to maintain must be pathological. He had a parole officer? He lied to you? Just so he could whisper sweet nothings in your ear? Why didn't he just appear in your car and vanish the same way?




Quote:why do you keep leaving that out and only looking at the mechanics of the story you can quantify

Because those parts don't make sense and you have half the credibility of an election day promise.

Quote:and i'm happily married for 18ish years now.

Only because your right hand can't legally divorce you.
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#52
RE: angel story video form
(March 28, 2020 at 12:46 am)Paleophyte Wrote:
(March 27, 2020 at 1:27 pm)Drich Wrote: actually it is not just an assertion.

Assertion: That which is stated without reason or evidence.
like it or not this is not a science experiment so the definition of evidence broadens to include eye witness testimony. you have mine in the video, therefore this again is not an assertion.

Quote:The answer to your question Why does God have servants, because as alpha and omega He can do what he wants.

As stated, this is neither a reason nor an explanation. It tells you that god is capricious, unfathomable, and wants servants. It doesn't tell you why.
[/quote] actually it is both. you simply do not have the intelligence nor wherewithal to ask how this is a reason and or explaination. you simply assume your world view is complete and that does not include a reason or definition for the term alpha and omega. Just FYI the larger world knows what why and how this definatin works. in fact most of your peers do as well which is why they are silent on the subject and you are feigning a position of intelligence.

Quote:because again he is the alpha and omega. so why would an alpha and omega want? for anything?
Quote:It wouldn't. Deities don't have wants and needs.
and if those wants include servants then by your own admission they have what they want, in this case servants. wow you do not seem accustom to thinking things through... why would you leave the subject matter open like that otherwise?

Quote:clearly you did not read all of it. nor watched it. because again dude came from no where and appeared before me as fast as it takes to get out of a car and disappeared as fast as it took to do a uturn. which was demonstrated in the very parking lot.
Quote:Read. Unimpressed. It's a classic case of least impressive miracle.
not trying to impress with a miracle, this is you moving the goal posts. if you were honest in the least little bit you would see i am dispelling this man's need for a ride. which is what you claimed. "I just gave some man a ride." when in fact if he can appear or disappear at will transportation is not a necessity.

Quote: Something happened that you can't explain so it must be god taking a hand in your life.
dishonest souche... something happened no one can explain take all the details as they happen stop trying to segregate and explain things by changing the narrative. I stopped in an empty parking lot. i opened the door a man appeared out of nowhere. he was not there went i turned to open the door nor put a foot out side in the moment where i ducked my head to clear the door frame on a 64 ranchero to the moment i was looking forward again this guy 'appears' silently and completely. this is a half second move. we leave and he asks if i want to know my future. i say yes. last thing i said out loud. He repeated my pleas to god while when i was a child.. said they would be granted. told me of my present situation told me how to fix that. told me what my dads thoughts and prayers were. spoke of my mom being in korea. then told me of my future. even stopped mid sentence to answer a question i had in my head. told me how my life would be used by God if i ABC... then let him out he knew of the 2 dollars i set aside for him if he asked. he knew how much and the reason why... then disappeared.
so yes douche bag a jammed pack 15 mins sit down with the holy Spirit or a messenger of the Holy Spirit was enough to change my life forever.

How sad are you that a sit down with God sat across from you to answer every question you ever had, solved all the problems you have now, gives you a heads up on the immediate future tells of and describe the wife God has prepared for you your soon to be business and life, would not be enough for you. that you heart is so cold and hard towards God that if God sat down with you as proof you would still turn away. Stuff like this is the reason I do not care if you guys choose heaven or hell, I just want you to remember this point in life after judgement and whatever that may mean to you. I want you to not be able to say what if, or if i had only known the truth.

The truth is, even if god pulled out all the stops, you would still turn your back.
Quote: This same god that can't be bothered to have a word with Assad, Putin, or Trump. You must be a real damned important cheese sandwich.
what makes you think he hasn't?
or what makes you think their father is God?
we do not all belong to god you know that right?
Quote:not dogging moron. he needed to get home before the parole officer called, and he was too far from home to make it on time.

Impressively non-Divine.
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not by your pharisaical standards no, but thankfully Jesus said we would need to find a righteousness far greater than that of the pharisees.

Quote:that was the story to get the ride
Quote:Bamboozling you with a lie is even less impressive.
is it any less than two angels appearing before lot as way fairing travelers looking for shelter for the night?? or what about the Son of god humbly being born to a destitute family, when God knew all the jewish leadership was looking for a literal king. what is impressive is your ignorance of God and how you think your ideas of holiness and divinity have any bearing on reality. you are like a 1st grader who drew heaven and earth, but refuses to acknowledge god because what/who God really is does not look like your f-ed up 1st grade 1/2 a tard drawing.

Quote:The partitioning that you have to maintain must be pathological. He had a parole officer? He lied to you? Just so he could whisper sweet nothings in your ear? Why didn't he just appear in your car and vanish the same way?
again I would guess it was a test as well as an opportunity. for the same reason the two approached lot looking for food and lodging. this was a test to see if lot was worthy of the warning the angels brought or if lot was to burn with the rest of sodom and gomorrah.

I even say this in the video i felt like i wanted no part of this man near me as he was very dirty, very physically threatening, I have been mugged in similar situations before, I had my whole pay check which i needed to live on as i was kicked out of my house. Had to also think of my little sister as well she was also kicked out. but it was also very very cold and it was getting dark, and if i did not help this man he in my mind would be going back to prison because he could not get across town fast enough... So despite all of that. I treated him like i wanted to be treated. he started to climb into the pick up bed part of the ranchero and i invited him up front where he stank and i was vulnerable/exposed.

I would not have the opportunity lot had to show his willingness to follow God's word if he had appeared or disappeared. that and i would have probably jump out of the car if a big homeless black dude with poop looking stains on his pants appeared in my car out of nowhere.




Quote:why do you keep leaving that out and only looking at the mechanics of the story you can quantify
Quote:Because those parts don't make sense and you have half the credibility of an election day promise.
trump's election promises have nearly all been addressed..
this story also ties to my shop/business.
which can be verified.

Quote:and i'm happily married for 18ish years now.

Only because your right hand can't legally divorce you.
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watch the videos my wife is the ter in the ter-roar productions (she is the one wearing the mask)
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#53
RE: angel story video form
(April 2, 2020 at 11:55 am)Drich Wrote: like it or not this is not a science experiment so the definition of evidence broadens to include eye witness testimony.

Eye witness testimony has been shown to be horrifyingly unreliable. Your testimony is dismissed as unreliable.

Quote:actually it is both. you simply do not have the intelligence nor wherewithal to ask how this is a reason and or explaination.

Simply stating that something is an explanation lends it no explanatory power. Nor does the petty insult.

Quote:and if those wants include servants

Wants imply needs and imperfections. A "Deity" that wants is a joke.

Quote:not trying to impress with a miracle, this is you moving the goal posts.

You claim that they disappeared using what I will assume is Divine power. This is the definition of a miracle. It fails to impress.

Quote:something happened no one can explain take all the details as they happen stop trying to segregate and explain things by changing the narrative.

I can explain it. You were duped. Conned. You've invested so much of your identity into this falsehood that you're incapable of admitting that angels don't have parole officers, don't need to tell lies, don't need to ask for rides. If God AllMighty needs to have a word with you he simply does.

Quote:I stopped in an empty parking lot. i opened the door a man appeared out of nowhere. he was not there went i turned to open the door nor put a foot out side in the moment where i ducked my head to clear the door frame on a 64 ranchero to the moment i was looking forward again this guy 'appears' silently and completely.

You failed to see him in the dimly lit parking lot because you had a lot on your mind, were looking for a parking space, and operating a motor vehicle. See how simple an explanation that is?

Quote:we leave and he asks if i want to know my future. i say yes. last thing i said out loud. He repeated my pleas to god while when i was a child.. said they would be granted. told me of my present situation told me how to fix that. told me what my dads thoughts and prayers were. spoke of my mom being in korea. then told me of my future. even stopped mid sentence to answer a question i had in my head. told me how my life would be used by God if i ABC... then let him out he knew of the 2 dollars i set aside for him if he asked. he knew how much and the reason why.

Classic dupe. It's been used for millenia on suckers like you.

Quote:then disappeared.

Did you see him disappear or did you fail to see where he went. Be honest.

Quote:douche bag

Have you noticed how petty insults fail to convince that you've been influenced by the Divine. Really the opposite.

Quote:How sad are you that a sit down with God

This is the same line that my brother used to give me when I refused to believe that he was King Arthur.

Quote:is it any less than two angels appearing before lot as way fairing travelers looking for shelter for the night?? or what about the Son of god humbly being born to a destitute family, when God knew all the jewish leadership was looking for a literal king. what is impressive is your ignorance of God and how you think your ideas of holiness and divinity have any bearing on reality.

I your fairy tale less impressive than the others? Yeah, they're antiques at least.

Quote:again I would guess it was a test as well as an opportunity.

Deities don't need tests, they Know. Tests are for the ones that flunked All-Knowing 101 and for followers who need excuses for non-Divine behaviour like parole officers.

Quote:trump's election promises have nearly all been addressed..

Duped. Suckered. Conned.
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#54
RE: angel story video form
Quote:something happened no one can explain take all the details as they happen stop trying to segregate and explain things by changing the narrative.
Argument from ignorance

Quote:i did notice how you are actually doing what you are claiming i am doing. you are not broaching the subject in any way you make an accusation and simply babble on with your scripted message despite what i do say.
Nope i'm stating a fact .All you have is babble if you want difference response stop babbling and say something worth engaging .Till then my statements remain accurate and adequate as a response . 


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(April 2, 2020 at 10:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:
(April 2, 2020 at 11:55 am)Drich Wrote: like it or not this is not a science experiment so the definition of evidence broadens to include eye witness testimony.

Eye witness testimony has been shown to be horrifyingly unreliable. Your testimony is dismissed as unreliable.

Quote:actually it is both. you simply do not have the intelligence nor wherewithal to ask how this is a reason and or explaination.

Simply stating that something is an explanation lends it no explanatory power. Nor does the petty insult.

Quote:and if those wants include servants

Wants imply needs and imperfections. A "Deity" that wants is a joke.

Quote:not trying to impress with a miracle, this is you moving the goal posts.

You claim that they disappeared using what I will assume is Divine power. This is the definition of a miracle. It fails to impress.

Quote:something happened no one can explain take all the details as they happen stop trying to segregate and explain things by changing the narrative.

I can explain it. You were duped. Conned. You've invested so much of your identity into this falsehood that you're incapable of admitting that angels don't have parole officers, don't need to tell lies, don't need to ask for rides. If God AllMighty needs to have a word with you he simply does.

Quote:I stopped in an empty parking lot. i opened the door a man appeared out of nowhere. he was not there went i turned to open the door nor put a foot out side in the moment where i ducked my head to clear the door frame on a 64 ranchero to the moment i was looking forward again this guy 'appears' silently and completely.

You failed to see him in the dimly lit parking lot because you had a lot on your mind, were looking for a parking space, and operating a motor vehicle. See how simple an explanation that is?

Quote:we leave and he asks if i want to know my future. i say yes. last thing i said out loud. He repeated my pleas to god while when i was a child.. said they would be granted. told me of my present situation told me how to fix that. told me what my dads thoughts and prayers were. spoke of my mom being in korea. then told me of my future. even stopped mid sentence to answer a question i had in my head. told me how my life would be used by God if i ABC... then let him out he knew of the 2 dollars i set aside for him if he asked. he knew how much and the reason why.

Classic dupe. It's been used for millenia on suckers like you.

Quote:then disappeared.

Did you see him disappear or did you fail to see where he went. Be honest.

Quote:douche bag

Have you noticed how petty insults fail to convince that you've been influenced by the Divine. Really the opposite.

Quote:How sad are you that a sit down with God

This is the same line that my brother used to give me when I refused to believe that he was King Arthur.

Quote:is it any less than two angels appearing before lot as way fairing travelers looking for shelter for the night?? or what about the Son of god humbly being born to a destitute family, when God knew all the jewish leadership was looking for a literal king. what is impressive is your ignorance of God and how you think your ideas of holiness and divinity have any bearing on reality.

I your fairy tale less impressive than the others? Yeah, they're antiques at least.

Quote:again I would guess it was a test as well as an opportunity.

Deities don't need tests, they Know. Tests are for the ones that flunked All-Knowing 101 and for followers who need excuses for non-Divine behaviour like parole officers.

Quote:trump's election promises have nearly all been addressed..

Duped. Suckered. Conned.
I don't know what's  funnier his irrationality or his confidence in it

Quote:like it or not this is not a science experiment so the definition of evidence broadens to include eye witness testimony.
Nope worthless hearsay
"Change was inevitable"


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#55
RE: angel story video form
@Drich The problem with your story is that it is like all of the millions of stories just like it from across thousands of religions. Every Catholic who has walked with a saint, every Muslim who has ever spoken with a djinn, every Hindu and Buddhist who have ever seen a deva. You will declare their stories to be poppycock of course. Just as they will do with yours. And I'm inclined to agree with all of you on that point.

How is an objective, external observer to distinguish between these tales of the Divine?
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#56
RE: angel story video form
(April 2, 2020 at 10:36 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:
(April 2, 2020 at 11:55 am)Drich Wrote: like it or not this is not a science experiment so the definition of evidence broadens to include eye witness testimony.

Eye witness testimony has been shown to be horrifyingly unreliable. Your testimony is dismissed as unreliable.
again sport it does not matter what you think about eye witness testimony. it is still a valid form of evidence, so much so we take human life on the word of the eye witness. there is no greater measure against your objection for what other form of evidence THAT COULD APPLY HERE that would trump what an first hand eye witness reported?

Quote:actually it is both. you simply do not have the intelligence nor wherewithal to ask how this is a reason and or explaination.

Simply stating that something is an explanation lends it no explanatory power. Nor does the petty insult.
[/quote] again sport... if you can not intellectually unbox the information provided with your intellect, ask a question to help you see the answer provided.
I don't expect everyone to know what i do. how ever it is my first priority to directly answer the question asked. even if the answer is over the head of the person who asked.
Otherwise i am accused of dancing around or creating straw men.

Quote:and if those wants include servants
Quote:Wants imply needs and imperfections. A "Deity" that wants is a joke.
man hate to have a dad like yours, if you think to want is an imperfection. or the fact that perfection is an absolute.

Where you defination of god fails you is that a alpha and omega can follow any standard he wishes. for that is true power.
If a god can not want, He then is not all powerful. True power is in the fulfillment of the will not the demonstration of power. a true all powerful God is not infinitely strong. but rather as strong as he wants to be.

Do you see where your understanding fails? your god is subjugated to serving his strength/can not show weakness no matter what..

My God the God of the Bible the Alpha and Omega is strong because his strength does not exceed his will. That is the extreme intelligence in being an alpha and omega over omni-max.


Quote:not trying to impress with a miracle, this is you moving the goal posts.
Quote:You claim that they
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Quote:disappeared using what I will assume is Divine power. This is the definition of a miracle. It fails to impress.
i do not know what he used might have been the cloak of invisibility or a cloaking devise. Hell he could have simply transported. the point was transportation was not his need like you speculated.

again again i point out that the miracle was not in the cloak, but everything he knew said and did.

Quote:something happened no one can explain take all the details as they happen stop trying to segregate and explain things by changing the narrative.
Quote:I can explain it. You were duped. Conned.
i haven't shared the details of his message, so give me some of those things that i said i prayed to god for the things i had only prayed to my self. not the one word prayers butone of the other ones asking for something...

you got nothing.. but scary angel had those prayers several big ones.
then scary angel had my present situation and complete solution.
Then scary angel told me of my love life.
and scary angel knew of my future. So tell me in depth like he did on any of those subjects..

I did not share completely because he level of detail he verbalized is usually internalized and apart of your inner dialog. how you see things without a filter.

The fact that this man knew those things was the miracle.

Quote: You've invested so much of your identity into this falsehood that you're incapable of admitting that angels don't have parole officers, don't need to tell lies, don't need to ask for rides.
you are a contradiction factory. your idea of god is so strong he always has to do the thing that shows the most strength. but can have servants/angels which the bible says he does. then according to you these angels can not come to people in the ways documented in the bible. when they do they can't come as regular people. then they can't test us like they did in the bible.
Looking back my experience follows the same biblical pattern of everyone who had dealt with angels who did not know they were angels. but for you and your little version of god whom you have a complete understanding of. this is not possible.

Quote: If God AllMighty needs to have a word with you he simply does.
God only spoke to literal leaders of nations IN THE OT.
I am not even gong to pretend i am worthy of that conversation.

Is this what happened to you? you were waiting for a burning bush were ya? you are as special as moses? God needs to drop the universe so he can coddle you? messenger not good enough??? that sport is why you sit in the dark concerning god.


Quote:I stopped in an empty parking lot. i opened the door a man appeared out of nowhere. he was not there went i turned to open the door nor put a foot out side in the moment where i ducked my head to clear the door frame on a 64 ranchero to the moment i was looking forward again this guy 'appears' silently and completely.
Quote:You failed to see him in the dimly lit parking lot because you had a lot on your mind, were looking for a parking space, and operating a motor vehicle. See how simple an explanation that is?
my explanation he was an angel who appeared in the 1/2 second between ducking my head to exit my car and stand up.. (which my peripheral would have pick up a mass coming to me.) your explanation black man blended well into evening sky. never mind he was not naked and his cloths were lighter and the parking lot was lit.

Quote:we leave and he asks if i want to know my future. i say yes. last thing i said out loud. He repeated my pleas to god while when i was a child.. said they would be granted. told me of my present situation told me how to fix that. told me what my dads thoughts and prayers were. spoke of my mom being in korea. then told me of my future. even stopped mid sentence to answer a question i had in my head. told me how my life would be used by God if i ABC... then let him out he knew of the 2 dollars i set aside for him if he asked. he knew how much and the reason why.
Quote:Classic dupe. It's been used for millenia on suckers like you.
sorry no, the classic dupe involves 'fishing.' i never said a word.

Quote:then disappeared.
Quote:Did you see him disappear or did you fail to see where he went. Be honest.
literally disappeared there was no where for him to go. the nearest structure was 100 yards away. he had too much stuff to clear 100 years in under 2 seconds. he was 500 yards from the perimeter of the parking lot and the stadium lights.

Quote:Have you noticed how petty insults fail to convince that you've been influenced by the Divine. Really the opposite.
What it conveys is that your idea of divine is so corrupt, your understanding of christianity is so far off the mark you do not understand the base principles of any of it.
Stupid... I am not better than you. in fact probably a lot worse of the course of my life. even now still a sinful man. but i rebel against this sin and hate it. i seek atonement for it and have it. not because of anything i did to deserve any of this but because God is Good and i asked for it.

if i was 'good'/perfect God would owe righteousness to me.
that is you f'ed up picture.
that is the one satan left in the halls of religious tradition. however this is not the picture found in the bible.

That is why i do not understand why people turn their back on the bible or God. there is so much more freedom here on His side, than on all of the bullshite and hypocritical side of morality spawned in self righteousness/pop culture. here i am not judge by my works to be found righteous before God, but you have to toe the line tink like the group thinks and can not have a conflicting opinion of your own. Example say it is wrong for a full grown dressed like a girl should be allowed in a woman bathroom with very young girls are. I can say it is wrong and i can say i do not want my young daughter in the same room with a man who puts on a dress claims feelings or confusion not associated with his physical gender. I can say not only is it wrong but those who openly allow that are putting their children in harms way for a social virtue signaling! but you cant. I can be me under God even if that me does not measure up to him.

You can't even fathom a God who would tolerate you let alone him have me represent him to you.
Quote:How sad are you that a sit down with God

This is the same line that my brother used to give me when I refused to believe that he was King Arthur.
[/quote] but we are not talking about king arthur. we are talking about even if god pulled out the stops and sent you an angel you would be too thick headed to do anything with this gift.
that truth takes a back seat to your ad hoc world view.

Quote:Deities don't need tests, they Know.
but how would we if we did not know we were tested?
if this happened the way you said when asked why did the angel come to you, i would not otherwise know. but because i was tested and see that senerio as such, i can say i was living how God wanted us to live i treated this guy despite all of the reason why not to the way i would have wanted, and whats more it was not even a consideration to put him in the cold again despite his intimidating appearance.
Quote: Tests are for the ones that flunked All-Knowing 101 and for followers who need excuses for non-Divine behaviour like parole officers.
you trying to explain this to me is like listing to my youngest nephew explain the magic in how a tv works.. he's 4

I'm using scriptural precedent and scripturally backed reasoning, and you who doesn't even understand the nature of salvation and foolishly thinks acting like i have no sin is how the save act, is now going to explain to me why God would not then follow the scriptural precedent he set in the bible, when angels come to people and test them... HEY STOOP-ED IT's Already in the BIBLE!!! OTHERS HAVE GONE THROUGH SIMILAR EXPERIENCES I WENT THOUGH!!!! How stoop-ed are you to keep arguing this point?!?!?

Can't you see that is how you think God works... the same God who did not answer your prayers or deliver that girl car or whatever you asked him for in exchange for a life time of service of other good deeds. YOUR understanding of God is so bad he left you to this made up thing of your to fail, so you would know this idea of yours would never work!!! Now you are so proud you can not reason/fathom that I have found something different that I have found the real deal!?!?
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#57
RE: angel story video form
-said the man pridefully explaining how he knew how god works.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#58
RE: angel story video form
(April 2, 2020 at 10:41 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
Quote:something happened no one can explain take all the details as they happen stop trying to segregate and explain things by changing the narrative.
Argument from ignorance
actually sport no. when one of you take my story and picks out the details they wish to address and refuses to look at the story as a whole that is the fallacy known as cherry picking.

but thanks for trying to use big boy logic, don't give up and do try again. next time google it before you submit your answer.


Quote:I don't know what's  funnier his irrationality or his confidence in it

what's funny is that if someone is confident in something they are saying that you can not understand or comprehend, it is usually because the subject matter is simply beyond your comprehension. What's so funny is you think your understanding of the world is complete, and will not consider the idea that you live in near darkness.




Quote:Nope worthless hearsay

sorry sport it is not hearsay when it comes from the eye witness/1st person perspective.

hear say is when a friend of a friend told me what he saw.

that's not what is happening here. i in the first person and telling you what i saw and heard. so... not hear say. Tut Tut
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#59
RE: angel story video form
How hard are you trying to convince us that you hear voices and see shit?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: angel story video form
(April 3, 2020 at 12:48 am)Paleophyte Wrote: @Drich The problem with your story is that it is like all of the millions of stories just like it from across thousands of religions. Every Catholic who has walked with a saint, every Muslim who has ever spoken with a djinn, every Hindu and Buddhist who have ever seen a deva. You will declare their stories to be poppycock of course. Just as they will do with yours. And I'm inclined to agree with all of you on that point.

How is an objective, external observer to distinguish between these tales of the Divine?

As I said i do not doubt people who earnestly claim.. I have no doubt muhammad saw an angel.. or joseph smith.. what i doubt is they were all from God.

Satan is the father or force behind all non god centered religions.

iT'S NOT THE EXPERIENCE THAT IS FALSE IT IS THE MESSAGE.

(April 3, 2020 at 2:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -said the man pridefully explaining how he knew how god works.
In this instance i was given insite.

which is not unprecedented. Paul knew how God worked Peter as well. Not to mention he has worked with me for 30 years on all of this. not that i have complete lock on everything but he has given me the key to the library of heaven so to speak. God is not the mystery to me as He obviously is to you. for one I know with my life he exists and to a degree know how to work with him or under him. knowledge and wisdom being my reward for service.

Again 30 year knowledge in an infinite God is nothing to brag to God about, but it is enough to answer most questions on a forum and explain how i understand my contact with him works.

(April 3, 2020 at 2:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: How hard are you trying to convince us that you hear voices and see shit?

and if those voices explain how evolution can be assimilated into a 7 day literal creation without changing a word of either?

what if those visions and voices yielded a multimillion dollar patented idea which set me and my shop up in the good side of town?
And on and on???
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