Joe Biden facing sexual assault allegations

[Agnostico]

OP: I'm not sure why you care?

Not care but interest as im sure many others would be as well


Such accusations are not much more than useless noise
First I ask myself why did it take so long to come out with such claims, why wasn't it reported when it happened. Suspicious
Then I ask why make such an accusation without filing for criminal charges or a civil lawsuit. Suspicious

Unless it goes to court, such claims should be ignored. The accuser could get sued for defamation 
I believe false accusations should be punished as equally as the supposed crime being alleged. That would decrease the amount of false claims

If it went to a criminal court I think there wouldn't be enough evidence to convict Joe Biden
Though there have been cases in recent times where guys have been convicted with not much more than the testimony of the accuser

If she was to file a civil lawsuit I think she would have a decent chance of winning given the evidence she claims to have and the way the civil courts are being run now

Do I think he's guilty... 
Nope. I have serious reservations about allegations that come out after so many years. There is no excuse for reporting the incident when it happened
I also have serious reservations about claims that aren't legal matters

Do I think it might effect his chances of becoming president... 
Yes. Unfortunately with this #metoo hysteria there are many people under the false belief that we must #believeallwomen and convict men just cos she says so

But we'll see what plays out anyway

[brewer]

OP: I'm not sure why you care?

Not care but interest as im sure many others would be as well


Such accusations are not much more than useless noise
First I ask myself why did it take so long to come out with such claims, why wasn't it reported when it happened. Suspicious
Then I ask why make such an accusation without filing for criminal charges or a civil lawsuit. Suspicious

Unless it goes to court, such claims should be ignored. The accuser could get sued for defamation 
I believe false accusations should be punished as equally as the supposed crime being alleged. That would decrease the amount of false claims

If it went to a criminal court I think there wouldn't be enough evidence to convict Joe Biden
Though there have been cases in recent times where guys have been convicted with not much more than the testimony of the accuser

If she was to file a civil lawsuit I think she would have a decent chance of winning given the evidence she claims to have and the way the civil courts are being run now

Do I think he's guilty... 
Nope. I have serious reservations about allegations that come out after so many years. There is no excuse for reporting the incident when it happened
I also have serious reservations about claims that aren't legal matters

Do I think it might effect his chances of becoming president... 
Yes. Unfortunately with this #metoo hysteria there are many people under the false belief that we must #believeallwomen and convict men just cos she says so

But we'll see what plays out anyway

Sounds rational, but I'm not buying the metoo hysteria, any more than I buy the shewasaskingforit defense. I'll consider them on a case by case basis.

[onlinebiker]

Not care but interest as im sure many others would be as well


Such accusations are not much more than useless noise
First I ask myself why did it take so long to come out with such claims, why wasn't it reported when it happened. Suspicious
Then I ask why make such an accusation without filing for criminal charges or a civil lawsuit. Suspicious

Unless it goes to court, such claims should be ignored. The accuser could get sued for defamation 
I believe false accusations should be punished as equally as the supposed crime being alleged. That would decrease the amount of false claims

If it went to a criminal court I think there wouldn't be enough evidence to convict Joe Biden
Though there have been cases in recent times where guys have been convicted with not much more than the testimony of the accuser

If she was to file a civil lawsuit I think she would have a decent chance of winning given the evidence she claims to have and the way the civil courts are being run now

Do I think he's guilty... 
Nope. I have serious reservations about allegations that come out after so many years. There is no excuse for reporting the incident when it happened
I also have serious reservations about claims that aren't legal matters

Do I think it might effect his chances of becoming president... 
Yes. Unfortunately with this #metoo hysteria there are many people under the false belief that we must #believeallwomen and convict men just cos she says so

But we'll see what plays out anyway

Sounds rational, but I'm not buying the metoo hysteria, any more than I buy the shewasaskingforit defense. I'll consider them on a case by case basis.

Right on....

Statistics and probabilities don't apply to individual cases.

[Rev. Rye]

[The Architect Of Fate]

Not care but interest as im sure many others would be as well

Such accusations are not much more than useless noise
First I ask myself why did it take so long to come out with such claims, why wasn't it reported when it happened. Suspicious
Then I ask why make such an accusation without filing for criminal charges or a civil lawsuit. Suspicious

1.No they are a serious matter that require investigation

2.It's not rare or irrational for the victim of sexual assault to hold off tellin for years 

3. There is nothing suspicious about not filing for criminal charges or a civil suit 

Unless it goes to court, such claims should be ignored. The accuser could get sued for defamation 

No they should be investigated
 

I believe false accusations should be punished as equally as the supposed crime being alleged. That would decrease the amount of false claims

That scare off legitimate victims and give offenders another defense 

If it went to a criminal court I think there wouldn't be enough evidence to convict Joe Biden

We don't know

Though there have been cases in recent times where guys have been convicted with not much more than the testimony of the accuser

Those are rare as hell 

If she was to file a civil lawsuit I think she would have a decent chance of winning given the evidence she claims to have and the way the civil courts are being run now

Unlikely 

Do I think he's guilty... 
Nope. I have serious reservations about allegations that come out after so many years. There is no excuse for reporting the incident when it happened
I also have serious reservations about claims that aren't legal matters

Yes there freaking is and anyone familiar with the psychology of rape would know that 

Do I think it might effect his chances of becoming president... 
Yes. Unfortunately with this #metoo hysteria there are many people under the false belief that we must #believeallwomen and convict men just cos she says so

Stupid strawman
 

But we'll see what plays out anyway

Yup

[onlinebiker]

Isn't it sad that American politics has devolved into

"Our sex offending son of a bitch is better than THEIR sex offending son of a bitch"..?

And voting third party is "a wasted vote"....

[The Architect Of Fate]

[Rev. Rye]

Isn't it sad that American politics has devolved into

"Our sex offending son of a bitch is better than THEIR sex offending son of a bitch"..?

And voting third party is "a wasted vote"....

Disappointing, but given that about 80 years ago, FDR was using the same general sort of argument about Latin American Dictators, it’s not too surprising.

[brewer]

[downbeatplumb]

Admissions of sexual assault helped Trump.

Being a sexual predator does not seem to be the bar from presidency people expect. Anyhoo, why has was this not mentioned all those years he was a perfectly good vice president?