Joe Biden facing sexual assault allegations

[Agnostico]

OP: I'm not sure why you care?

Not care but interest as im sure many others would be as well


Such accusations are not much more than useless noise
First I ask myself why did it take so long to come out with such claims, why wasn't it reported when it happened. Suspicious
Then I ask why make such an accusation without filing for criminal charges or a civil lawsuit. Suspicious

Unless it goes to court, such claims should be ignored. The accuser could get sued for defamation 
I believe false accusations should be punished as equally as the supposed crime being alleged. That would decrease the amount of false claims

If it went to a criminal court I think there wouldn't be enough evidence to convict Joe Biden
Though there have been cases in recent times where guys have been convicted with not much more than the testimony of the accuser

If she was to file a civil lawsuit I think she would have a decent chance of winning given the evidence she claims to have and the way the civil courts are being run now

Do I think he's guilty... 
Nope. I have serious reservations about allegations that come out after so many years. There is no excuse for reporting the incident when it happened
I also have serious reservations about claims that aren't legal matters

Do I think it might effect his chances of becoming president... 
Yes. Unfortunately with this #metoo hysteria there are many people under the false belief that we must #believeallwomen and convict men just cos she says so

But we'll see what plays out anyway

[brewer]

OP: I'm not sure why you care?

Not care but interest as im sure many others would be as well


Such accusations are not much more than useless noise
First I ask myself why did it take so long to come out with such claims, why wasn't it reported when it happened. Suspicious
Then I ask why make such an accusation without filing for criminal charges or a civil lawsuit. Suspicious

Unless it goes to court, such claims should be ignored. The accuser could get sued for defamation 
I believe false accusations should be punished as equally as the supposed crime being alleged. That would decrease the amount of false claims

If it went to a criminal court I think there wouldn't be enough evidence to convict Joe Biden
Though there have been cases in recent times where guys have been convicted with not much more than the testimony of the accuser

If she was to file a civil lawsuit I think she would have a decent chance of winning given the evidence she claims to have and the way the civil courts are being run now

Do I think he's guilty... 
Nope. I have serious reservations about allegations that come out after so many years. There is no excuse for reporting the incident when it happened
I also have serious reservations about claims that aren't legal matters

Do I think it might effect his chances of becoming president... 
Yes. Unfortunately with this #metoo hysteria there are many people under the false belief that we must #believeallwomen and convict men just cos she says so

But we'll see what plays out anyway

Sounds rational, but I'm not buying the metoo hysteria, any more than I buy the shewasaskingforit defense. I'll consider them on a case by case basis.

[onlinebiker]

Not care but interest as im sure many others would be as well


Such accusations are not much more than useless noise
First I ask myself why did it take so long to come out with such claims, why wasn't it reported when it happened. Suspicious
Then I ask why make such an accusation without filing for criminal charges or a civil lawsuit. Suspicious

Unless it goes to court, such claims should be ignored. The accuser could get sued for defamation 
I believe false accusations should be punished as equally as the supposed crime being alleged. That would decrease the amount of false claims

If it went to a criminal court I think there wouldn't be enough evidence to convict Joe Biden
Though there have been cases in recent times where guys have been convicted with not much more than the testimony of the accuser

If she was to file a civil lawsuit I think she would have a decent chance of winning given the evidence she claims to have and the way the civil courts are being run now

Do I think he's guilty... 
Nope. I have serious reservations about allegations that come out after so many years. There is no excuse for reporting the incident when it happened
I also have serious reservations about claims that aren't legal matters

Do I think it might effect his chances of becoming president... 
Yes. Unfortunately with this #metoo hysteria there are many people under the false belief that we must #believeallwomen and convict men just cos she says so

But we'll see what plays out anyway

Sounds rational, but I'm not buying the metoo hysteria, any more than I buy the shewasaskingforit defense. I'll consider them on a case by case basis.

Right on....

Statistics and probabilities don't apply to individual cases.

[Rev. Rye]

For my part, while I do tend to treat things like this on a case-by-case basis (and in this case, I’m going to say it’s fairly plausible, but not confirmed), I also recognize that the majority of these claims will be true, specifically 5 and a half percent. Roughly 1 in 19 cases. Not a huge amount by any means, but nowhere near as negligible as many feminists like to claim it is. I’d personally wait to see if there’s some real corroboration about whether his impropriety goes beyond the creepy shit that emerged about him last year.

And since Agnostico mentioned the sheer length of time as a point against her case, I should point out that it can be shockingly difficult for rape cases to actually get anywhere. Case in point, I’m actually subscribed to Chris Hansen’s YouTube page (and yes, it’s THE Chris Hansen) and last night, he streamed this interview with a few of the victims of Dahvie Vanity, lead “singer” of Blood on the Dance Floor. At one point, one of the girls talked about going to the cops and, while not hostile, they proved to be shockingly useless:



And, bear in mind, this was just the singer of a shitty band, one whose pedophilia had been an open secret for years at that point. At this point last year, he had 21 accusers, and probably more. When the concert they had talked about had happened, he had already had a similar arrest in Florida two years prior. Within a few years, diss tracks against his accusers had become so prevalent that they became an entire sub-sub-sub-genre within the band’s oeuvre. How much better do you think they would have done if had someone important (like, say, a Senator who currently [as of 1993] heads the Senate Judiciary Committee) had been accused?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Not care but interest as im sure many others would be as well

Such accusations are not much more than useless noise
First I ask myself why did it take so long to come out with such claims, why wasn't it reported when it happened. Suspicious
Then I ask why make such an accusation without filing for criminal charges or a civil lawsuit. Suspicious

1.No they are a serious matter that require investigation

2.It's not rare or irrational for the victim of sexual assault to hold off tellin for years 

3. There is nothing suspicious about not filing for criminal charges or a civil suit 

Unless it goes to court, such claims should be ignored. The accuser could get sued for defamation 

No they should be investigated
 

I believe false accusations should be punished as equally as the supposed crime being alleged. That would decrease the amount of false claims

That scare off legitimate victims and give offenders another defense 

If it went to a criminal court I think there wouldn't be enough evidence to convict Joe Biden

We don't know

Though there have been cases in recent times where guys have been convicted with not much more than the testimony of the accuser

Those are rare as hell 

If she was to file a civil lawsuit I think she would have a decent chance of winning given the evidence she claims to have and the way the civil courts are being run now

Unlikely 

Do I think he's guilty... 
Nope. I have serious reservations about allegations that come out after so many years. There is no excuse for reporting the incident when it happened
I also have serious reservations about claims that aren't legal matters

Yes there freaking is and anyone familiar with the psychology of rape would know that 

Do I think it might effect his chances of becoming president... 
Yes. Unfortunately with this #metoo hysteria there are many people under the false belief that we must #believeallwomen and convict men just cos she says so

Stupid strawman
 

But we'll see what plays out anyway

Yup

[onlinebiker]

Isn't it sad that American politics has devolved into

"Our sex offending son of a bitch is better than THEIR sex offending son of a bitch"..?

And voting third party is "a wasted vote"....

[The Architect Of Fate]

Why women wait and why it's justified 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/...ard-sooner

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/17/health/wh...index.html

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Isn't it sad that American politics has devolved into

"Our sex offending son of a bitch is better than THEIR sex offending son of a bitch"..?

And voting third party is "a wasted vote"....

Your clearly reading a different thread then i am

[Rev. Rye]

Isn't it sad that American politics has devolved into

"Our sex offending son of a bitch is better than THEIR sex offending son of a bitch"..?

And voting third party is "a wasted vote"....

Disappointing, but given that about 80 years ago, FDR was using the same general sort of argument about Latin American Dictators, it’s not too surprising.

[brewer]

Perspective:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fe...ted_States

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...ns/565457/

[downbeatplumb]

Admissions of sexual assault helped Trump.

Being a sexual predator does not seem to be the bar from presidency people expect. Anyhoo, why has was this not mentioned all those years he was a perfectly good vice president?