God's Love

[Johanabrahams]

Evil lunacy seems like a good term for...evil lunacy.

Anyway, to the above.

Jews didn't kill jesus.

Jews and christians emphatically do not worship the same god.  You have a borrowed ladder, which isn't the same thing at all.  Go Ask A Jew, they'll tell you all about how the christian god is antithetical to the jewish god...they've been doing it forever.  In the context of the borrowed ladder, that;s (part of) why christians, killed jews.  Straight up Marla Singer business.  One lie exposes another, it's enough to keep nerves raw and lead to bad decisions.

To whatever extent christian orthodoxy is up against you, it isn't because you've found some truth that they want to hide, it's because religious institutions aggressively try to rid themselves of Marlas.

Evil lunacy seems like a good term for...evil lunacy.

Yep.  I agree.  When you have the evidence.  But as it is now it is just your opinion.  Derived from your brain?  That makes you a "hypocrite" because there is no evidence.

Mat. 7
 1  Judge not, that ye be not judged. 

  2  For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 
  3  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 
  4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 
  5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

Christians know this and try to refrain from it.  Because they know they will be judged.  You didn't know.  Now you know.  You should learn and not keep on stumbling into the same trap.  But like the Christian Babies that has not yet succeeded in stopping you are just very "human". 

Anyway, to the above.

Jews didn't kill jesus.

Jews and christians emphatically do not worship the same god.  

So who killed Jesus?

Jews and Christians worship the same God. I could have linked you to evidence.  Where we are in discussions.  You will have to wait for 30 days. Not my mistake. But you can contact me for the links in other places of communication if you really want it.

You have a borrowed ladder, which isn't the same thing at all.  Go Ask A Jew, they'll tell you all about how the christian god is antithetical to the jewish god...they've been doing it forever.

 
I know.  And in the actual conversations you will see how the real God is actually manifesting.  Sorry.  You will have to wait for 30 days.  But I am on many places.  You can come and ask there.  If you really want to know.  For now you will just have to accept what I say.  But this is not my mistake.  Humans like their laws.  They can not rule in Love and Wisdom like Solomon did.   But i am here to help them.  Some accept the help and others stubbornly refuse.  Just the way humans are.  Forgive them.  They have too much "faith" in their intellect.  

In the context of the borrowed ladder, that;s (part of) why christians, killed jews.  Straight up Marla Singer business.  One lie exposes another, it's enough to keep nerves raw and lead to bad decisions.

I know.  Only ignorance ruling there. 

Hosea 4
 6 ¶My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

   As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame.

And disobedience.

James 4
   From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, evenof your lusts that war in your members?

   Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
   Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
   Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

But don't worry.  I am there and helping them already.  On twitter, on Facebook, on reddit on all the forums i can find etc.  Any other place for me?  But maybe you can come and help?  One of these days.

To whatever extent christian orthodoxy is up against you, it isn't because you've found some truth that they want to hide, it's because religious institutions aggressively try to rid themselves of Marlas.

Yep.  Religion is bad.  But they are the Babies of God fighting one another.  They will grow up and recognize how foolish they where while they were "Babies".

1 Cor. 3
  And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal,even  as unto babes in Christ.
   I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
   For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
   For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
   Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
   I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
   So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

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Heterodox schismatics choice of imagery is illuminating,, lol.

Words of Love is different.  Their importance is the Feeling they convey.  Not how "big" they are.

[Johanabrahams]

Ok.  So how will you do that?

Innumerable ways, almost. I could build a near indisputable case for the existence of my mother from multiple forms of evidence including photos, live video/audio, birth certificates, medical records, genetic testing, in person meetings, etc. And, for your god?

Further, saying “I just know” is a bald assertion that can be made about any god; even mutually exclusive ones. I just know Allah is real. How do we figure out who is correct?

Yep.  i could have linked you now to conversations with them.  Where you will actually see that both of us are correct.  They just know less than we do.  They do not believe that their "Almighty" is the Father I just told you about.  To them this is "blasphemy".  You will remember that this was also the reason why the Jews killed Jesus.  For saying God is now revealed as our Father.  Where we become born of Him and exactly the same as Him. 

Both of these groups have the same God as Christians.  They just know less.  And this is revealed when you ask them if their God loves them.  They will immediately say yes.  And when you ask them how they experience it then you will see the lack of the Love of the Father.

I have no idea what any of this is supposed to mean. 

Demonstrate it.  And what strange behavior would that be, exactly?

If you were sitting next to your mother and somebody else.  That person would accept your behavior as result of being in a Relationship with your Mother.  Maybe the time you were dating your behavior would be different with your mother in your presence then when you were totally alone.  So telling the person you were dating that your mother is the reason for your behavior when she is "not seen" can only be believed when that person knows you very well.  As well as your mother.   The same for me.  Those who know me well understand the behavior that comes from God as my Father that influences my behavior.  If they also know God as their Father.

Again, what strange behavior, exactly?

The problem with me came when God was no longer my Father but became my Husband.  Then my behavior changed.  And likewise in the times of Jesus those with the behavior of having God as their Father was a problem to those that didn't have that knowledge.  They only know God as their God and not their Father.  This change in me is difficult for the Children of God to grasp and they ban me just as they killed Jesus.  Only killing is no longer allowed.  But if this happened many years ago with me then i am sure I would have been killed too. 

The big persecution that Abaddon will take us in (if allowed) came when God became my Husband 20 years ago.  Meaning I had to introduce myself all over again.  As the Mother of God's Children.  As the Mother of all.  I didn't know how to do that.   So God did it.

lol, wut? Sorry, but I can’t tell if Poe or crazy.

Innumerable ways, almost. I could build a near indisputable case for the existence of my mother from multiple forms of evidence including photos, live video/audio, birth certificates, medical records, genetic testing, in person meetings, etc. And, for your god?

Ok.  That is all physical.  But let us look at spiritual/feeling/emotional evidence.  Can your "date" sitting next you deduct that is your mother even if he didn't know it.  Out of your reactions towards her only.  And the behavior you show towards him while in her presence?

I have no idea what any of this is supposed to mean.

Sorry.   We will have to wait until the 30 days are past.  Then I can show you my actual debate.  Experiencing it is worth much more than just me telling you about it.  If you really want to know contact me on one of the many places you will see on my "website".  So you just have to be satisfied now with my answer.  I am hampered in helping you more on this site.  The heart of this case is this.  We all worship the same God. Just looking from a certain angle.  Like 5 mice looking at a cow from the side, front, back, bottom and top.  They have to put their different versions together to actually know what they differed about.

Again, what strange behavior, exactly?

I think Abaddon and my conversation with him will help a lot in understanding this question.  As he and Chimp looked from two different perspectives to me.  Abaddon from "sacrosanct" or rather Truthfully said "backbiting" and Chimp at my actual existence in my community on my Facebook Page.  Both have two widely different judgments.  One i am a "kook".  The other I am a 'dangerous cunt".  So we have to bring this now together in one Truth that explains both situations.  That is now where my explaining to you comes in.

The question is now if that Explanation of mine to you is the Truth or something else.  I gave mine.  So others has to come up with theirs.

lol, wut? Sorry, but I can’t tell if Poe or crazy.

No need to feel sorry for giving your honest feelings and deductions.  I am used to it.  Let us see how the conversation develops.  And then if I am still here after 30 days I can help with giving actual life situations to help. Now Chimp and Abaddon will fill that gap for you to a certain extent.

But the heart of it is this.  When you became a mother you changed from being a child.  Your behavior, actions etc changed.  Same with me.  I was a Child of God and changed to become a Wife of God with Children.  So my behavior and actions changed from having the other Children of God as my Brothers and Sisters to being now the Mother of them.  So there are a lot of "hiccups".

[Succubus#2]

This is this nothing but spam. Is this sad bastard going for suicide by mod?

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

[Abaddon_ire]

I think Abaddon and my conversation with him will help a lot in understanding this question.  As he and Chimp looked from two different perspectives to me.  Abaddon from "sacrosanct" or rather Truthfully said "backbiting" and Chimp at my actual existence in my community on my Facebook Page.  Both have two widely different judgments.  One i am a "kook".  The other I am a 'dangerous cunt".  So we have to bring this now together in one Truth that explains both situations. 

Easy. You are a kook and a dangerous cunt. All solved.

As for waiting, given the length of the thread I linked, it will be some time before people read through and discover just exactly how fucked up you are.

Perhaps I will restart the "bork count" I created just for you.

[Gwaithmir]

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Wrong! You have the capacity to change, you simply lack the intellectual honesty to do so.

In this book God is guilty of the gratuitous killing of human beings, the wanton destruction of property, the unjustified assault on job's person, and a hideous display of his own egotism and conceit---all for the sole purpose of winning a bet with the Devil. The fact that God later restored Job's wealth does not erase the reality of his crimes. The fact that Job lacked the moral courage to stand erect and shout, "J'accuse!" at his tyrant deity does not vindicate God's immoral behavior either.

Your God is about as full of love as Hitler.

You are a perfect example of how religion and faith debilitate the mind and unfit it for honest thinking.

Job just suffered the consequences of listening to others about God.  He never took God serious in actually meeting with Him personally.   He was just in "religion". 

Job 42
 Then Job answered the Lord, and said,

  2 I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.
   Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
   Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
   I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
   Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.


Religion is a killer.  I can link you to my killing by my  religion.  But my links are blocked.  I thought they might see that they are in fact according to their rules just evidence.  Like here.  But seems they don't understand.   So you will have to ask for them and maybe that will help. 

In fact you will meet with it here with Abaddon with us.  And you will have a witness about how religion "killed me".

Nope. That didn't come until after Job's family and servants had been murdered, his person assaulted and his property laid waste by God's sanction---all so God could win a bet with the Devil. God was clearly guilty of crimes against humanity. The tyrannical deity then tells Job he is nothing more than an insignificant worm and has no right to question a being who is immensely powerful and righteously aloof of his subjects' suffering whenever it suits him, simply because he is so powerful. Might makes right! Your apologetics are nonsensical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_(biblical_figure)

[Johanabrahams]

I am giving you God's Way.

Unevidenced assertion.

God's Love is to be a Father to us.  Giving birth to us to be His Kids.  Growing up in His Life as His Son, Jesus.

Unevidenced assertions.

Where our Father died to give birth to Us as His Son, Jesus.

Unevidenced assertion.

Saving us from dead Adam(human) life.  Because we died to that and are born again from God as His Son Jesus.

Unevidenced assertion.

So you have all the evidence you need.

No...What I have is a bag full of unevidenced assertions, lol.

Just look at the Child and you will see the Father.

Who?

God is not selfishly loving the world like superman.  Keeping his "nice life" for himself.  Nope.  He is Loving the World as their Father.  And they can by His Son, Jesus.  So we are witnesses of God's Love.

unevidenced assertion.

But because God Love you He will not make Himself known to you if you don't want Him for your Father.   Because that will be forcing His Love on you.  You have to accept the witnesses of those that know Him.

Do I have to say it again? Congratulations on your impressively abject failure. That was some MK-level BS, right there, lol.

Who?

Those in the churches are the Children of God.  They are born of their Father.  That is why their lives are different from humans. Mine is different from them.  Seems I am the first Mother.  But you have to ask Chimp about this.  He went to look for himself.   You can also and see our lives together in the Family of God. 

Do I have to say it again? Congratulations on your impressively abject failure. That was some MK-level BS, right there, lol.

Nope.  You are wrong.   You can not "congratulate" someone on his "failure".  But "failure" in the academic world of intellect does not mean there can be no Relationship with me.  A Mother does not need a high IQ to be that.  But of course.  There are two groups of people.  Some accepts and others not.  Just the way it is.  I am a "failure" or not.  Everyone has to decide.  And when you look on Facebook you will see that some come and stay.  Others come and go.  Love does not force.  It has to be accepted.

John 10
[/size] ¶There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.
  [/size] And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
  [/size] Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

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I think Abaddon and my conversation with him will help a lot in understanding this question.  As he and Chimp looked from two different perspectives to me.  Abaddon from "sacrosanct" or rather Truthfully said "backbiting" and Chimp at my actual existence in my community on my Facebook Page.  Both have two widely different judgments.  One i am a "kook".  The other I am a 'dangerous cunt".  So we have to bring this now together in one Truth that explains both situations. 

Easy. You are a kook and a dangerous cunt. All solved.

As for waiting, given the length of the thread I linked, it will be some time before people read through and discover just exactly how fucked up you are.

Perhaps I will restart the "bork count" I created just for you.

Easy. You are a kook and a dangerous cunt. All solved.

To you it is.  But Chimp is wondering.  Because He has my actual Life in front of him.  And you have your "sacrosanct" and not even the conclusions reached in the last forum. 

Why did you exclude them?

As for waiting, given the length of the thread I linked, it will be some time before people read through and discover just exactly how fucked up you are.

So why did you just give the first forum and not the next one where the real abusive person was revealed.  The "pastor" hanging on my throat in Shoprite?   And I just turning my other cheek.  Have you asked him about it or have you decided to stick with his version in his hiding place?

Perhaps I will restart the "bork count" I created just for you.

My Son,  after i helped you with your divorce you really got very angry?  It is anger making those guys "sick to death.   And now you too.  But you as well as they can always change.  It is just your pride keeping you stuck on your present road of your own illness.

[Abaddon_ire]

For anyone bored enough...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/for...p?t=318847

It is obvious who I am and who he is in that thread and it is FUBB. It will really show anyone who and what JA really is.

And what is that?

Well, it is a long thread of 63 pages of forty posts per page, Right up until his inevitable banning, but I guess we all have some slack time these days.

Within he advocates for familial abuse, child abuse, alcohol abuse, and so on and on and on. He got barred by his wife and two daughters, his church, his entire town. For violence and abuse. The creche I mentioned? He volunteered there and got tossed for traumatizing children. His hometown barred him because he took to the streets armed with a cudgel screaming and shouting and railing at all and sundry and threatening physical harm on street corners. He has a restraining order requiring 500m distance. That's right, half a kilometer.

From there he ended up operating a "shebeen" serving up cheap booze to desperate, impoverished alcoholics and used that as a means to manipulate them.

Likely, more detail I have forgotten.

What he is doing now is anyone's guess since that was three years ago, but I bet it will not be pretty.

However, in that venue, I was not free to speak my thought due to the forum rules. Here, I can be more forthright.

He is an insane cunt.

For anyone bored enough...

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/for...p?t=318847

Seems you don't have Patience.  You initially said you going to "wait" for while.  But you just had to do it immediately.  Ok.  Just learning more about yourself and your inability to actually stick to what you said.  

And I warned you.  But you didn't heed the warning.  I told you that the conclusion is in the Skeptic Society Forum.  And you didn't give that link.  So this is now you bringing your side of the story.  My side is absent.  And in bringing your side only you are just giving your own opinion.  Where I can not bring my evidence.  So I will just state it.

Within he advocates for familial abuse, child abuse, alcohol abuse, and so on and on and on. He got barred by his wife and two daughters, his church, his entire town. For violence and abuse.

Seems I am a pretty "violent" person.  Getting angry quickly.  And then solving my differences physically.   Beating up everybody physically.  Seems I should have been put in prison and not just given "barring orders"?  Which I will obviously not obey?

But what actually got me always so angry? And what are the actual evidence on who I beat up?  Seems the "pastor" that Abaddon spoke to didn't know?  Or was he just "backbiting".  Happy to have found an ally in Abaddon.  Too ignorant to know "backbiting" is evil.  And Abaddon ran with it.  Because Abaddon was in a corner in his forum.  And wanting to disgrace me there.

The creche I mentioned? He volunteered there and got tossed for traumatising children.

Strange? A "creche" taking in a "violent" person?  And then the "traumatised" children.  I wonder how he actually did it.  Because "traumatised" is general terminology.  Maybe the "pastor" he spoke to (I have an idea it was the head of the persecution against me) didn't have any real facts?  Just his opinions?  No wonder he got Abaddon to be "sacrosanct".  Hiding him away.  Because he was "backbiting".



Romans 1
 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

  29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
  30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
  31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
  32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


But we looked perfectly well into the detail of the "creche" in Skeptic Society Forum.  There was a person (Nicky) with law capabilities there.  We dissected the court orders and my actual actions with my "cudgel" in my "anger".  Which the pastor omitted.  And the question is this.  Why did he omit it?  Maybe he was just "backbiting" me? 

Catching poor Abaddon in his ignorance of "backbiting".  Changing "backbiting" to "sacrosanct"?

Link us please!  I can not.

His hometown barred him because he took to the streets armed with a cudgel screaming and shouting and railing at all and sundry and threatening physical harm on street corners.

Strange?  For 10 years 2000 - 2010 I roamed the streets of Robertson with a  "cudgel" and they just endured without doing anything?

I am wondering now by lack of being able to give my links and the evidence to the contrary how does this "cudgel" actually look?

Also strange that the same pastor didn't tell you about our actual physical meeting.  In Shoprite on the day just before Christimas in the year 2000.  I mean.  That is real evidence.  Maybe you should ask him the detail about that meeting and how the actual fight started, proceeded and ended.  Seems a nice piece of evidence for him . . . or me?  Why do you think he omitted it?

And why did you omit it.  You were in SGU when we investigated that actual piece of evidence. 

I put it under the heading of "Fake court orders".  Give us a link please! I can not.

Why i was not put in prison after "violently attacking the honorable pastor in Shoprite with my cudgel"?  Maybe he was so good to allow me to be home on Christmas?  He should not be embarrassed to speak about his "goodness"?

From there he ended up operating a "shebeen" serving up cheap booze to desperate, impovirished alcoholics and used that as a means to manipulate them.

Well Chimp has the detail there.  How I am actually living in my black community.  But as far as I can see he just came up with me being their Mother.  Taking them away from the "booze" and restoring their lives to what it should be.  As many of them witness there.  He would also have seen that I have no shebeen.  I don't need it.  God used the persecution to totally kill my human existence.  i have no wife, kids, family, friends, nation, possesions.  And therefor i don't need money and no work.  So i am helping the poor for free.   I am just helping in a Tavern because they are the people that took me into their house after I sold all my possessions and gave the money to the poor there in the black township of Nkqubela. 

And they were smuggling alcohol.  So i helped them to get a license for a real Tavern.  And they are very grateful to me because they are making lots of money and are now living a wealthy live.   And in their gratitude they don't chase me away for helping the people out of the Tavern.  Because it seems like the more i am helping out of the Tavern the more the "ill" are coming in.

To be restored.

What he is doing now is anyone's guess since that was three years ago, but I bet it will not be pretty.

Chimp got us the detail there.   He is filling that in.  Seems he is struggling to line up my real Life with your version of it?   Because what He has is totally different from what you describe.  But let us see how you two will be sorting yourself out now.  With your version of me and his version of me.

However, in that venue, I was not free to speak my thought due to the forum rules. Here, I can be more forthright.

Good one.  You admit to what I said there.  The lack of Wisdom and Love of the mods are just a barrier to good Relationships.  And here they have the problem of linking again which they didn't have in ISF.  It is just humans trying their best with rules.  But you know that my forum in Delphi and my Facebook page is ruled in Love with Wisdom.  There is never any bans.  No matter who says what.  All are just disciplined by Love in Wisdom.

He is an insane cunt.

Yep.  You have your opinion on me.  Anger for Loving you before you started with your "fight" against me.  For helping you with your "divorce".  And now the anger is ruling your intellect.  To force you to use "name calling".  Putting yourself in a "bad" light.  But those reading your link will witness that I Loved you before you started "beating me up"  spiritually, during your process of beating me up spiritually and after you "beat me up spiritually".  And you never learned.  Because from the beginning in ISF until the end in SGU where you just disappeared and never came to Skeptic Society i Loved you as, my beloved Son, Jesus.   And you are still my beloved Son, Jesus.  To whom i am giving birth as your Mother.  With God as your Father.  I just hope the "bosses" here can handle your tantrums, my Son. And accept the discipline of the Mother and the Father towards their "naughty" Son.

Gal. 4
19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

1 Cor. 4

 14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
  15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
  16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

Amazing Patience.  All capitals because of my Humbleness.  All the capitals is given me by my Father when I got born of Him.  Having now the same Character as He has.  Because I really did get that angry spirit towards my wife before I got born again.  And she got it towards me.  That was 30 years ago.  But even while we had it towards each other there was only one of us that really took a "cudgel" and used it on their partner.  You are welcome to ask the details from my wife.  So I hope that my changed life will help her change hers too.  Because while we were in the "creche" she never changed her "cudgel".  And i had to act.  For the sake of her and my children.  And I got persecuted for that. 

So having this totally different version now from that of Abaddon.  How are we going to get to the bottom of this?   Enjoy!  Maybe you can handle me for 63 pages of post like ISF did.  But in their format vs yours it should be 40 x 63 pages?

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How do I know? Easy our holy book 'The Mighty Tambi' details FSM endless love, For example Xhe has never condoned slavery.

Easy.  Like Father like Son.  Just try and fathom my Endless Love for my Son, Abaddon.  While his version of me derived from "backbiting" and Chimps version derived from witnessing my actual Life are miles apart.

I am not your son, freak.

You are a wife beating, child abusing (including your own and others), violent criminal who needs to be stopped.

[Sal]

Who is this delusional cunt?

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Who is this delusional cunt?

Having read the whole thread... ( I'll be reviewing Abadon's link when I can )

This feller definately has a few Roo's loos in his top paddock.

Cheers.