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Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
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RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
June 6, 2020 at 2:10 pm
Even Lee himself was against post Civil War Moumuments honoring his side.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...-he-wrote/
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June 6, 2020 at 2:13 pm
(June 6, 2020 at 2:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Even Lee himself was against post Civil War Moumuments honoring his side.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...-he-wrote/
But not because he disagreed with the mission of the South.
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RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
June 6, 2020 at 2:15 pm
(June 6, 2020 at 2:13 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(June 6, 2020 at 2:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Even Lee himself was against post Civil War Moumuments honoring his side.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...-he-wrote/
But not because he disagreed with the mission of the South.

True. But if you want to argue with someone on the right, this might crack the door.
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June 6, 2020 at 2:25 pm
(June 6, 2020 at 2:06 pm)Brian3 Wrote: Rommel was a "great tactician" is like saying Ted Bundy was a "great serial killer." One can also value the power of the 79 ACE eruption in Pompeii, and at the same time wish it had never had happened. Vesuvius had an excuse, it was not human. Rommel didn't have an excuse.

He *was* a great tactician. Just like Mao was a great tactician. That doesn't mean they were on the right side, nor that they deserve statues in their honor. They don't.

But their methods *should* and can be usefully studied by those interested in aspects of military planning.
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RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
June 6, 2020 at 2:26 pm
(June 6, 2020 at 2:05 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(June 6, 2020 at 1:55 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: History books more then chronicle his folly

Didn't say otherwise. But if you mean that's why it's no big deal removing his statue, then I agree.
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June 6, 2020 at 2:35 pm (This post was last modified: June 6, 2020 at 2:37 pm by Brian37.)
(June 6, 2020 at 2:25 pm)polymath257 Wrote:
(June 6, 2020 at 2:06 pm)Brian3 Wrote: Rommel was a "great tactician" is like saying Ted Bundy was a "great serial killer." One can also value the power of the 79 ACE eruption in Pompeii, and at the same time wish it had never had happened. Vesuvius had an excuse, it was not human. Rommel didn't have an excuse.

He *was* a great tactician. Just like Mao was a great tactician. That doesn't mean they were on the right side, nor that they deserve statues in their honor. They don't.

But their methods *should* and can be usefully studied by those interested in aspects of military planning.

I agree, and that was my point. 

But even outside war tacticians, it is incumbent on the sane and empathetic to not allow master and monster manipulators to get to power and put in those tacticians that lead to oppression in the first place. 

War is unfortunately a matter of resources and strategy. Not that I would because Hitler was a fucking monster. But if he had simply took his time to build more modern weapons that he almost developed, and hadn't spread himself too thin, at a minimum he could have kept most of Europe. i am glad he was a dumbfuck though.

Hitler's flaw was he stupidly thought you could expand and use the resources of the defeated. But even that doesn't change he was a genocidal racist fuck.
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RE: Statue of Lee to be removed from Va capital.
June 6, 2020 at 6:14 pm
Somewhere in Mississippi, a trailer park is about to get a community statue
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June 6, 2020 at 7:06 pm
(June 6, 2020 at 6:14 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Somewhere in Mississippi, a trailer park is about to get a community statue
Tupelo or Jackson.
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June 6, 2020 at 9:09 pm
Christ this is a trend. Brian, you’re not allowed to have the same opinion as me it’s unnerving!
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June 6, 2020 at 10:41 pm
(June 6, 2020 at 7:06 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(June 6, 2020 at 6:14 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Somewhere in Mississippi, a trailer park is about to get a community statue
Tupelo or Jackson.

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