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RE: Minneapolis Abolish Police
June 8, 2020 at 7:34 am
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2020 at 7:35 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Fine, good cops would never ever want to work with a better model. Kindof damages their good cop cred, if you ask me. If they're not empowered to execute a motherfucker in the streets, they'll go somewhere else where they are.
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RE: Minneapolis Abolish Police
June 8, 2020 at 7:38 am
(June 8, 2020 at 7:34 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Fine, good cops would never ever want to work with a better model. Kindof damages their good cop cred, if you ask me. If they're not empowered to execute a motherfucker in the streets, they'll go somewhere else where they are.
You are a cartoon.
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Your disparaging of police because there are some bad cops in the ranks is as wrong, pigheaded and tiresome as a Klansman saying all blacks are criminals because a few are.
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RE: Minneapolis Abolish Police
June 8, 2020 at 7:44 am
(June 8, 2020 at 7:30 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Or....the good cops™ will get a new, better job, in the community...outside of an adversarial relationship, which is far less murdery.
That will be reorganize police, not abolish. I don't have much of an issue with that.
We need a better idea of what is being proposed.
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RE: Minneapolis Abolish Police
June 8, 2020 at 7:55 am
(June 8, 2020 at 7:30 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Or....the good cops™ will get a new, better job, in the community...outside of an adversarial relationship, which is far less murdery.
And one bad cop will get them all fired AGAIN. I wouldn't blame any of them for moving on.
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RE: Minneapolis Abolish Police
June 8, 2020 at 8:01 am
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2020 at 8:05 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
(June 8, 2020 at 6:15 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: So now when you call 911 they'll send a hipster? We don't know the plan yet
Fact of the matter is none of us know what will happen . I'm trying to keep an open mind on the subject . Will see if crime rates go up or not .
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RE: Minneapolis Abolish Police
June 8, 2020 at 8:18 am
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2020 at 8:18 am by onlinebiker.)
(June 8, 2020 at 7:55 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (June 8, 2020 at 7:30 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Or....the good cops™ will get a new, better job, in the community...outside of an adversarial relationship, which is far less murdery.
And one bad cop will get them all fired AGAIN. I wouldn't blame any of them for moving on.
By process of elimination- there will always be "the worst cop"....
Unfortunately some people think that guy is all cops...
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RE: Minneapolis Abolish Police
June 8, 2020 at 9:00 am
The issue isn’t a bad cop here or a bad cop there. The issue is a law enforcement culture that protects those bad cops. Until the system is abolished - or at least rebuilt from the ground up - deaths like Floyd’s will go on and on and on.
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RE: Minneapolis Abolish Police
June 8, 2020 at 9:17 am
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(June 8, 2020 at 8:18 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (June 8, 2020 at 7:55 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And one bad cop will get them all fired AGAIN. I wouldn't blame any of them for moving on.
By process of elimination- there will always be "the worst cop"....
Unfortunately some people think that guy is all cops... Surely not open-minded liberals!
(June 8, 2020 at 9:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The issue isn’t a bad cop here or a bad cop there. The issue is a law enforcement culture that protects those bad cops. Until the system is abolished - or at least rebuilt from the ground up - deaths like Floyd’s will go on and on and on.
Boru Well, I'm waiting to see the baby go flying by with the bath water.
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RE: Minneapolis Abolish Police
June 8, 2020 at 9:29 am
(June 8, 2020 at 8:18 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (June 8, 2020 at 7:55 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: And one bad cop will get them all fired AGAIN. I wouldn't blame any of them for moving on.
By process of elimination- there will always be "the worst cop"....
Unfortunately some people think that guy is all cops... Yes there will be bad cops because there are bad people. The problem here is that the good cops are Good “despite” their training and arsenal. There are cops who always use their cams but the system they are in prevents the necessary transparency. The types of physical enforcement techniques trained to them are great tools to have, if u r in a war, not against your own citizens, and not when reason and compassion are excluded.
It’s blatantly apparent that there are good cops and bad cops, but the system stifles the good and protects the bad, and thus needs reform. Much like the Catholic Church, senate, etc.
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RE: Minneapolis Abolish Police
June 8, 2020 at 9:33 am
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2020 at 9:42 am by Foxaèr.)
Speaking of reform, why is it so hard to achieve?
Nothing good or necessary should be difficult to achieve. Rather, it is ignorant people who want things to remain as it selfishly suits them rather than see a positive change that benefits all.
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