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Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
Shazza. You know that your divine ONE TRUE GOD™ is strictly a geopolitical decision, right?
It's just by sheer luck that you were born where you were, otherwise you'd be swearing black and blue that Allah is God. Or Vishnu?

But be grateful that you hit the jackpot and are worshipping the correct ONE TRUE GOD™! Dodgy because the other 4 billion pilgrims devote their lives to false Gods. And die for him. And kill others for him.
How lucky are you! Big Grin

Sorry matey, your indoctrination has tied your logic circuits in a knot. True story™.
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RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
I cannot imagine a female deity existing, because no way would she have messed things up this much.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
At work.

(July 29, 2020 at 3:41 am)Eleven Wrote: I cannot imagine a female deity existing, because no way would she have messed things up this much.

Unless this reality is what's left after that rather messy divorce..... ?
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RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
(July 28, 2020 at 7:14 pm)polymath257 Wrote:
(July 28, 2020 at 3:06 pm)Sal Wrote: Pretty sure orbital mechanics sufficiently explains the Moon going around the Earth.

And the rest of science nicely explains things about the universe without invoking any deities.

Except Alan Guth. Hehe

(July 29, 2020 at 3:41 am)Eleven Wrote: I cannot imagine a female deity existing, because no way would she have messed things up this much.
Yahweh was originally married. Then guys like Winterhold got involved and she was shunted.
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RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
There have been plenty of female deities, they all cocked it up - pretty much the same way that the male deities cocked it up. Deity, ultimately, stands in as archetype for fundamental human interests and compulsions. The kind of things that cross gender and sex, also, conveniently a common theme for gods.
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RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
Men don’t know how to write female deities any more than they know how to draw female superheroes.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
(July 28, 2020 at 2:01 pm)Shazzalovesnovels Wrote: Prove it

Glad to see you back, Shaz! I was a little concerned that you might already be finished with us.

I'm sure others have already pointed out the double standard here since you can't prove any of your theological claims. The 'when you're dead, you're dead' hypothesis has the advantage of being consistent with everything we know about the universe, but sure, it's conceivably possible that you have an immortal soul. I think the idea started in ancient times, we have dreams and it seems like we're out 'doing stuff' while our bodies stay put. Now we understand that brain activity accounts for dreaming, but it can feel like we have a self that doesn't depend on our bodies. We've never been able to pin down anything that backs that idea up, though.

Personally, I like to have more than 'conceivable possible' as my standard for thinking something is actually real.

(July 28, 2020 at 2:07 pm)Shazzalovesnovels Wrote:  If you can't prove that there's no afterlife, then how can you say definitively that there is no God. Can't you be open to options?

“I mean, you could claim that anything's real if the only basis for believing in it is that nobody's proved it doesn't exist!”
― J.K. Rowling

(July 28, 2020 at 2:14 pm)Shazzalovesnovels Wrote: ok then, substitute good for godly. because no godly thing can enter hell.

I hope you're not too attached to that idea. This is about Jesus (in case you're not familiar with the Homer Simpson spelling):

In Christian theology, the Harrowing of Hell (Latin: Descensus Christi ad Inferos, "the descent of Christ into Hell") is the triumphant descent of Christ into Hell (or Hades) between the time of his Crucifixion and his Resurrection when he brought salvation to all of the righteous who had died since the beginning of the world.[1] After his death, Jesus descended into the realm of the dead.
Christ's Descent into the world of the dead is referred to in the Apostles' Creed and the Athanasian Creed (Quicumque vult), which state that Jesus Christ "descended into the underworld" (descendit ad inferos), although neither mention that he liberated the dead. His descent to the underworld is alluded to in the New Testament in 1 Peter 4:6, which states that the "good tidings were proclaimed to the dead".[2] The Catholic Catechism interprets Ephesians 4:9, which states that "[Christ] descended into the lower parts of the earth", as also supporting this interpretation.[3] These passages in the Christian Bible have given rise to differing interpretations.[4] The Harrowing of Hell is commemorated in the liturgical calendar on Holy Saturday.[5]

--Wikipedia
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RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
(July 29, 2020 at 3:41 am)Eleven Wrote: I cannot imagine a female deity existing, because no way would she have messed things up this much.

I can. I saw how bad Maggie the milk thief was (Thatcher).
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RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
(July 29, 2020 at 5:48 pm)Nomad Wrote:
(July 29, 2020 at 3:41 am)Eleven Wrote: I cannot imagine a female deity existing, because no way would she have messed things up this much.

I can.  I saw how bad Maggie the milk thief was (Thatcher).

Are you implying that Thatcher was a diety? Hilarious
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RE: Where do we go when we die and are you afraid?
It's amazing how the most powerful being in space and time is reduced to 'can't you be open to the possibility'

What we want to know in this day and age is why such a being is introduced as a possibility at all ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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