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Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 7, 2020 at 3:09 pm
Was the condemnation of man justified?
If not justified, Jesus was not required to ask us to do evil by accepting human sacrifice.
I do not recall any of my many sins ever being bad enough to earn condemnation.
Every sin I, and likely you, ever made, has been forgiven.
For god to condemn me, and most of you, would be unjust.
I am innocent. Are you?
Regards
DL
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RE: Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 7, 2020 at 3:18 pm
No and no.
Boru
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RE: Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 7, 2020 at 3:35 pm
In fairy tales, anything can happen. Considering the abrahamic god is nothing more than a viscous, malevolent, sadistic, egomaniacal monster, I wouldn't put condemnation of its prized possession past its brutal, ruthless means.
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RE: Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 7, 2020 at 3:55 pm
Hey, Christian's God is a dumb stone age fairytale that doesn't make sense today
(December 7, 2020 at 3:35 pm)no one Wrote: In fairy tales, anything can happen. Considering the abrahamic god is nothing more than a viscous, [...] monster,
You mean like this?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 7, 2020 at 4:19 pm
(December 7, 2020 at 3:09 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Was the condemnation of man justified?
If not justified, Jesus was not required to ask us to do evil by accepting human sacrifice.
I do not recall any of my many sins ever being bad enough to earn condemnation.
Every sin I, and likely you, ever made, has been forgiven.
For god to condemn me, and most of you, would be unjust.
I am innocent. Are you?
Regards
DL
I've never committed a "sin" in my life.
I've been drunk.
I've had sex while unmarried (lots).
I've covetted.
I've lied.
And I've done many other things.
But never "sinned".
Dying to live, living to die.
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RE: Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 7, 2020 at 4:29 pm
Yes, condemnation justified. But not by a "god".
Some of the worst living creatures I know are humans.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 7, 2020 at 4:35 pm
(December 7, 2020 at 4:19 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (December 7, 2020 at 3:09 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Was the condemnation of man justified?
If not justified, Jesus was not required to ask us to do evil by accepting human sacrifice.
I do not recall any of my many sins ever being bad enough to earn condemnation.
Every sin I, and likely you, ever made, has been forgiven.
For god to condemn me, and most of you, would be unjust.
I am innocent. Are you?
Regards
DL
I've never committed a "sin" in my life.
I've been drunk.
I've had sex while unmarried (lots).
I've covetted.
I've lied.
And I've done many other things.
But never "sinned".
So in other words, you’ve had the temerity to live you life acting like a human being. For shame!
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 7, 2020 at 4:49 pm
(December 7, 2020 at 4:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (December 7, 2020 at 4:19 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I've never committed a "sin" in my life.
I've been drunk.
I've had sex while unmarried (lots).
I've covetted.
I've lied.
And I've done many other things.
But never "sinned".
So in other words, you’ve had the temerity to live you life acting like a human being. For shame!
Boru
I've done everything the religious people do but without the guilt.
Dying to live, living to die.
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RE: Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 7, 2020 at 5:02 pm
To OP I dunno, it depends on how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin.
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RE: Was the condemnation of man justified?
December 7, 2020 at 5:11 pm
(December 7, 2020 at 5:02 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: To OP I dunno, it depends on how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin.
3.
2 if they're drink.
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