Protestors Storm Capital

[Irreligious Atheist]

They are not only censoring incitement to riot. They are taking down whole platforms like Parlor (I don't really know what Parlor is and have never visited it, but I know it's anti-American to take it down). I'm not talking about incitement to riot. I believe Biden won, but questioning the election results should absolutely be allowed. Questioning the World Health Organization should absolutely be allowed. Questioning any official story should absolutely be allowed. It's anti-American to not allow it, and it's beside the point that the government itself isn't the one doing the censoring. The mass censorship is having the same effect basically.

Do you support new domestic terrorism laws being put into law like Biden wants? Like the Republicans want? Did you support the anti-American Patriot Act after 9/11? This is the same shit all over again. Your rights are going down the tube.

Um no. Apple is a private business. They are not required by force to put up all apps because that app wants to be on their service. Apple had repeatedly warned Parlor to shape up, and they did not. Apple has the right to refuse service. 

And knock it off with the two parties are the same bullshit.

Now if you want a better argument. I have long since hated growing monopolies. Those are anti competitive, and corporate America does have way too much power. But in the the case of Trump this is strictly about inciting violence. Even giant corporations understand that unrest is economically bad for their bottom line. I am not going to pretend any of this is being done by them for noble reasons. 

But terrorism will affect their bottom line, a civil war also will affect their bottom line.

Giant corporations and GOP billionaire donors are fleeing from Trump and that party, because they know growing seditious terrorism will affect even them.

I'd certainly be for re-instating the "fairness act" that Reagan destroyed and apply that to all formats, not just tv networks. But while protecting offensive speech should always be protected, calls for violence isn't protected speech, no matter the class.

I'm against calls for violence too, Brian. I just think that only a small percentage of the people being censored are calling for violence. We're living in 1984. I'd rather not live in 1984. That book was not supposed to be an instruction manual.

And as far as new terrorism laws go, shouldn't you be concerned about how those laws will be used by the other side when they get back into power? You want to give a maniac like Ted Cruz or someone even worse more ability to abuse people's rights when they come into power in four or eight years? At least there are people on the left like AOC speaking out against new unnecessary terrorism laws, but obviously very few will stand up for the people like she is doing right now. The rest are too blinded by their hatred of Trump and his followers to care about their rights being stripped away, just like they were blinded by their hatred of radical Muslims to see how insane the Patriot Act was.

[DodosAreDead]

Where was your outrage when the idiots were burning down Seattle/Portland?

'Burning down Seattle/Portland' is hyperbole and you know it.

[Brian37]

Where was your outrage when the idiots were burning down Seattle/Portland?

'Burning down Seattle/Portland' is hyperbole and you know it.

OLB along with too many on the right do not understand unrest because people don't like fearing being murdered while interacting with law enforcement, or say a riot after a sporting event, and attempts at insurrection because a leader sold you the lie that you were a victim when they merely lost a fair election.

There were were riots after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr too. Martin Luther King Jr advocated peaceful protest, but he also said, you cant expect those whom abuse you to never react. Martin Luther King Jr was not advocating violence in saying that. He was appealing to those in power to address inequity and abuse of power.

The white nationalists on the extreme right are not getting violent because they are oppressed, they are getting violent because they fear changing demographics. 

This is what OLB doesn't understand.

Militia groups, proud boys, Neo Nazis, boogaloo do not value pluralism, they do not value democracy, they value power and hate. BLM and the leaders on the left don't like the riots either, but they also understand why they happen and know what can be done to reduce that fear and desperation. 

The centrists on the right, and far too many GOP in congress are not doing enough to distance themselves from those supporters who are willing to get violent.

[Rev. Rye]

The white nationalists on the extreme right are not getting violent because they are oppressed, they are getting violent because they fear changing demographics. 

If their rhetoric is any indication, the right and their useful idiots can’t tell the difference between the two. Or if they can, then the latter is worse because they’re the ones bearing the brunt of it.

[The Architect Of Fate]

I'm against calls for violence too, Brian. I just think that only a small percentage of the people being censored are calling for violence. We're living in 1984. I'd rather not live in 1984. That book was not supposed to be an instruction manual.

No were not living in 1984. Stop being a drama queen.

And as far as new terrorism laws go, shouldn't you be concerned about how those laws will be used by the other side when they get back into power?

If our "side" storms the capital in an act of blatant sedition we deserve to have those laws used against us.

 You want to give a maniac like Ted Cruz or someone even worse more ability to abuse people's rights when they come into power in four or eight years?

Good thing were don't monarchy of a dictatorship then 

 At least there are people on the left like AOC speaking out against new unnecessary terrorism laws, but obviously very few will stand up for the people like she is doing right now.

AOC is being irrational 

 The rest are too blinded by their hatred of Trump and his followers to care about their rights being stripped away, just like they were blinded by their hatred of radical Muslims to see how insane the Patriot Act was.

It has nothing to do with hatred and again with the flipping patriot act 

[Drich]

They are not only censoring incitement to riot. They are taking down whole platforms like Parlor (I don't really know what Parlor is and have never visited it, but I know it's anti-American to take it down). I'm not talking about incitement to riot. I believe Biden won, but questioning the election results should absolutely be allowed. Questioning the World Health Organization should absolutely be allowed. Questioning any official story should absolutely be allowed. It's anti-American to not allow it, and it's beside the point that the government itself isn't the one doing the censoring. The mass censorship is having the same effect basically.

Do you support new domestic terrorism laws being put into law like Biden wants? Like the Republicans want? Did you support the anti-American Patriot Act after 9/11? This is the same shit all over again. Your rights are going down the tube.

Um no. Apple is a private business. They are not required by force to put up all apps because that app wants to be on their service. Apple had repeatedly warned Parlor to shape up, and they did not. Apple has the right to refuse service. 

refusing service to only people of a given political belief system is bias which is regulated by the government. meaning if the government can make a Christian owned private bakery make a wedding cake for a gay couple, then they can certainly protect the millions of constatives who use a given site they use to commiserate with.

And knock it off with the two parties are the same bullshit.

don't know what you mean here. they two parties could not be more different.

Now if you want a better argument. I have long since hated growing monopolies. Those are anti competitive, and corporate America does have way too much power. But in the the case of Trump this is strictly about inciting violence. Even giant corporations understand that unrest is economically bad for their bottom line. I am not going to pretend any of this is being done by them for noble reasons.But terrorism will affect their bottom line, a civil war also will affect their bottom line. 

the game changes on the multi billion dollar level. they knew going into this they were going to piss off 75 million people, and did not care. their 'morality' and allegiance to their version of the political truth is far strong than the bottom line derived from a divided country with two different world views. they know if left wing extremism was to take over their profits and power base would be twice anything it could be now.

Giant corporations and GOP billionaire donors are fleeing from Trump and that party, because they know growing seditious terrorism will affect even them.

people leave people in power simply because politically that is what swamp people do.

I'd certainly be for re-instating the "fairness act" that Reagan destroyed and apply that to all formats, not just tv networks. But while protecting offensive speech should always be protected, calls for violence isn't protected speech, no matter the class.

i do not disagree

[onlinebiker]

'Burning down Seattle/Portland' is hyperbole and you know it.

OLB along with too many on the right do not understand unrest because people don't like fearing being murdered while interacting with law enforcement, or say a riot after a sporting event, and attempts at insurrection because a leader sold you the lie that you were a victim when they merely lost a fair election.

There were were riots after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr too. Martin Luther King Jr advocated peaceful protest, but he also said, you cant expect those whom abuse you to never react. Martin Luther King Jr was not advocating violence in saying that. He was appealing to those in power to address inequity and abuse of power.

The white nationalists on the extreme right are not getting violent because they are oppressed, they are getting violent because they fear changing demographics. 

This is what OLB doesn't understand.

Militia groups, proud boys, Neo Nazis, boogaloo do not value pluralism, they do not value democracy, they value power and hate. BLM and the leaders on the left don't like the riots either, but they also understand why they happen and know what can be done to reduce that fear and desperation. 

The centrists on the right, and far too many GOP in congress are not doing enough to distance themselves from those supporters who are willing to get violent.

Being a cunt is being a cunt....


Burning down the neighborhood Starbucks or Verizon store because you think you aren't getting a fair shake is being a cunt.....

And appologizing for cuntlike activity makes you a cunt as well.

[The Grand Nudger]

The white nationalists on the extreme right are not getting violent because they are oppressed, they are getting violent because they fear changing demographics. 

If their rhetoric is any indication, the right and their useful idiots can’t tell the difference between the two. Or if they can, then the latter is worse because they’re the ones bearing the brunt of it.

It's the second thing, very explicitly.  Having some issues telling the difference between important items is more a problem of the left, always seeking a center where bipartisan has come to mean republican and republicanism reduced to white supremacy.

[Rev. Rye]

And condemning the riots when not giving a shit about the material conditions that led to them just makes you an even bigger cunt:





Yeah, no shit, turning a peaceful protest into a full-blown riot is wrong and ultimately self-defeating, and non-violent means of protest are far better at effecting change and keeping the optics of your movement good in the long run. Doesn’t mean the protesters didn’t have a damn good point about how raw a deal they’ve been getting. You don’t want riots? Listen to what they have to say and try and address their grievances (assuming, of course, that said grievances actually hold up to scrutiny.)

Jesus Fuck, why is this speech still relevant half a century after MLK bought it?

[Ranjr]

If this winter we seized the Capitol and last summer we burned the means of production,  I say third time's a charm.