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All Politicians Lie
#11
RE: All Politicians Lie
(January 9, 2021 at 3:05 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

 Fek me.

Is this the whiny sheet we're going to get for the next few years?

 Should have known Sir Appleby's words would come back to haunt us.

 "In victory, revenge.  In defeat,  malice."

 You do you OLB.

 Coffee

How is it any different from the whiny shit of the last 4 years?


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#12
RE: All Politicians Lie
At work.

(January 9, 2021 at 3:08 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(January 9, 2021 at 3:05 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Fek me.

Is this the whiny sheet we're going to get for the next few years?

 Should have known Sir Appleby's words would come back to haunt us.

 "In victory, revenge.  In defeat,  malice."

 You do you OLB.

 Coffee

How is it any different from the whiny shit of the last 4 years?


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Well you didn't get any whiny sheet from me.

I constantly explained that the situation in 'Yankystan' involved neither a Cheif monkey I cared about nor was it happening in my circus.

Hey, I get it. Your fave football team didn't win the grand final and you're claiming the Referee was biased by disallowing that try in the first half that cost you the points and hence the game.

You've just got to suck it up and insist your team train harder in getting ready for the next season.

No good whining about the Ref's decision when your team can't even function on the feild.

Coffee
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#13
RE: All Politicians Lie
(January 9, 2021 at 11:46 am)onlinebiker Wrote: "That's the job of a president. To represent all of us, not just our base or our party." [/font][/color]

Really? Including the white supremicists? No? Ok..

What about the far right of the Republican party? No? Ok..  Not them either.

What about NRA members?  Uh uh? Ok.. I guess that's too much to ask...

What about Communists? I assume there is some of those still running around. Is Joe going to support Communists?

Yes, he represents all.  He doesn't support all.

Representing means giving a shit about the people, even if you disagree with their views.  White supremacists don't get their agenda done, but as people, they deserve to have an opportunity for jobs, get treated equally before the law, etc.

Part of why Hillary lost is her "deplorables" comment.  If a third of the country is deplorable in her mind, can she "represent" the whole country?  I would say not.
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#14
RE: All Politicians Lie
Represent is not a synonym for caring.

I don't know you learned that.


Represent (in political terms) means "in place of".

Rather than everyone voting on every item - you vote for someone to represent you. Your Representative.

You did not hire these cretins to love you, to care about you or to make you happy. You voted for them because you think they will vote on matters as YOU WOULD.


You can try to obfuscate all you like with alternate meanings of a word all day - but it varies not a bit the FACT that noone can represent EVERYONE.

To represent EVERYONE - everyone would have to be in agreement.


They are not.
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#15
RE: All Politicians Lie
By default, the president represents all the people of their nation. But they don't have to agree with them or endorse their ultimate goals . He just has to make sure they all get the same fundamental treatment

Quote:Represent is not a synonym for caring.

I don't know you learned that.


Represent (in political terms) means "in place of".

Rather than everyone voting on every item - you vote for someone to represent you. Your Representative.

You did not hire these cretins to love you, to care about you or to make you happy. You voted for them because you think they will vote on matters as YOU WOULD.


You can try to obfuscate all you like with alternate meanings of a word all day - but it varies not a bit the FACT that noone can represent EVERYONE.

To represent EVERYONE - everyone would have to be in agreement.


They are not.
Nope, no obfuscation the president represents everyone's basic interests whether they acknowledge it or not.So nope Joe didn't lie
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#16
RE: All Politicians Lie
Not all.


















Some are dead. [Image: Thumbs%20Up.png]
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#17
RE: All Politicians Lie
(January 9, 2021 at 3:33 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: By default, the president represents all the people of their nation. But they don't have to agree with them or endorse their ultimate goals . He just has to make sure they all get the same fundamental treatment

Quote:Represent is not a synonym for caring.

I don't know you learned that.


Represent (in political terms) means "in place of".

Rather than everyone voting on every item - you vote for someone to represent you. Your Representative.

You did not hire these cretins to love you, to care about you or to make you happy. You voted for them because you think they will vote on matters as YOU WOULD.


You can try to obfuscate all you like with alternate meanings of a word all day - but it varies not a bit the FACT that noone can represent EVERYONE.

To represent EVERYONE - everyone would have to be in agreement.


They are not.
Nope, no obfuscation the president represents everyone's basic interests whether they acknowledge it or not.So nope Joe didn't lie

How many states are not called states but "Commonwealths"? 

OLB wants to falsely equate the two sides as being the same. He cherry picks on par with theists when you debate them.

"Nobody is going to agree 100% of the time" and "You cant please everyone" is a dodge. Nobody is arguing that. 

This is falsely claiming that those who seek to calm the tempest are seeking a utopia. Good leaders are not trying to create a utopia, but to minimize division. 

My friend from Oklahoma HB, I think would make a great President, if he was famous enough and had the means to run. But he has no desire to. He has a very Martin Luther King Jr attitude in wanting all sides to get along. I would not run myself because I don't have the patience he does nor would I vote for a Politician who had my temperament. 

But OLB keeps forgetting there is a far different responsibility for a President than a no name. No other President in my lifetime has been as vile in his vilification and scapegoating. Mitt Romney didn't act at that manor. McCain did not act in that manor. Bush Jr did not act in that manor. Reagan did not act in that manor.

Pelosi's calling Trump "unhinged" isn't a tactical or political issue. It is a concern expressed by our own intel, even by members of his party, and psychologists too. Michael Coen expressed deep regret in supporting Trump, and even Bill Barr got to the point of having had enough of Trump.

Sometimes a bully is a bully and a sociopath like Trump needs to be called out and stood up to.
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#18
RE: All Politicians Lie
Is the nazi olb trying to make out we're as bad as he is, again?
The great appear great because we are on our knees. Let us rise!
Big James
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#19
RE: All Politicians Lie
(January 9, 2021 at 11:57 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(January 9, 2021 at 11:51 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 'Represent' doesn't mean 'support'. The groups you mentioned are not answerable to the president, he is answerable to them.

That's what 'represent' means.  It means you don't play favourites. It means you protect the rights of white supremacists, of far-right Republicans, of NRA members, of communists and of bigoted Christians in precisely the same way you protect the rights of your base.

I feel like I shouldn't have to explain this.

Boru

Nice try.

But you are wrong.


Let's talk about abortion.

Either it is legal, or it isn't. There's no halfway. Like pregnancy.

Joe has to pick one side or the other.

Somebody is not going to be represented.

The Presidents job is to implement and enforce the laws passed by congress, so in regards to abortion even if the he is against abortion, he still must enforce the laws that say abortion is legal. That is why we have representatives in congress and it's also why we don't leave it up to one individual to decide what should and shouldn't be legal.
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#20
RE: All Politicians Lie
Awaiting the topic where OLB says "The sky appears blue." And then blames Democrats for something.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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