Please Justify This Police Action For Me

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Because, of course, the police are just forces of nature that cian’t be reasonably expected to think beyond instinct, right?

You go right ahead and ignore reality....

Next time you get confronted by a LEO - go ahead and tell him in a loud voice that he can go fuck himself - you don't have to put up with his bullshit...


Please....

And make sure someone gets it on video so we can all enjoy it.....

I’ve done exactly that, but it was in the days before readily available video. The result was about what you’d expect - I acquired a medium set of lumps and two days in the nick (no complaints - I rated what I got).

Then again, I wasn’t 9 years old at the time.

Boru

[Irreligious Atheist]

If you intentionally go out looking to see whether something can be excused, that increases the likelihood of you finding some excuse

Of course it does. And sometimes the media misrepresents things and I do end up excusing the police's actions. There is a thing called a justified shooting, and the media does misrepresent things quite a bit and phrase things in terms of racism by police, even in instances where there is no evidence of any racism being present. They push the BLM propaganda for fear of being seen as racist or being targeted by the mob themselves.

[onlinebiker]

That's just the way it is...some things will never change.  The thing to do, is clearly explain to our children that this is the way things are.  That cops will beat the living shit out of you.

Correct?  Huddle around heathens, daddys gonna tell you the story of the cops, who carry sticks to hit you with and guns to shoot you with.  Yaaaaaay cops!

I have to ask...is this how you were raised....?  That might explain an awful fucking lot.

You think cops are a different species - or a manufactured item that just needs better programming...

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As long as we use humans - the cops are going to be as fucked up as the rest of them...

So yeah. Use care dealing with them. If you piss them off the rest of their gang will show up and kick your ass into tomorrow....

[The Grand Nudger]

The police misrepresented things. The media just went along with their version of events because...fuck, it's not like the cops are liars..... right?

Tell me more about how much you hate fake news. I never get tired of that one. /s

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That's just the way it is...some things will never change.  The thing to do, is clearly explain to our children that this is the way things are.  That cops will beat the living shit out of you.

Correct?  Huddle around heathens, daddys gonna tell you the story of the cops, who carry sticks to hit you with and guns to shoot you with.  Yaaaaaay cops!

I have to ask...is this how you were raised....?  That might explain an awful fucking lot.

You think cops are a different species - or a manufactured item that just needs better programming...

Exactly the opposite - but don't let that interfere with whatever grievance you have against those people who do.  

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As long as we use humans - the cops are going to be as fucked up as the rest of them...

So yeah. Use care dealing with them. If you piss them off the rest of their gang will show up and kick your ass into tomorrow....

Sounds like you're referring to a criminal gang.  I'm under the impression that we expect a different service from police. If they can't do that, and just absolutely positively -will- be a criminal gang instead...sounds like a letter of resignation. I appreciate the honesty of the position, if that's their position - just as much as I'd like for the kid behind the counter to tell me he has doubts about his ability to put pickles and lettuce on my burger before I pay for one.

Maybe those cops would be better at a job like that? Whole lot less opportunity to mace a nine year old, for sure.

[onlinebiker]

We get it... You hate cops....


Say no more....

[The Grand Nudger]

I'm honestly not too keen on anyone who maces and abducts a nine year old, personally.

[Rev. Rye]

That's just the way it is...some things will never change.  The thing to do, is clearly explain to our children that this is the way things are.  That cops will beat the living shit out of you.

Correct?  Huddle around heathens, daddys gonna tell you the story of the cops, who carry sticks to hit you with and guns to shoot you with.  Yaaaaaay cops!

I have to ask...is this how you were raised....?  That might explain an awful fucking lot.

You think cops are a different species

Isn't that exactly what you just implied you believe about an hour ago? That you consider the police to be a force with about as much capacity for reasoning or moral accountability as a wild animal?

A responsible parent teaches a kid -

Don't feed the bears;
Don't tease the rattlesnake;
And don't piss off cops..

[The Grand Nudger]

In fact, lets apply some of that collective responsibility we're so keen to employ on the parents, shall we? Who else might be culpable for the police acting in this way. For an officer to hold, however briefly, the notion that they could mace a nine year old and walk? Who else might my strong distaste for child abduction and abandonment of duty extend to, as a consequence of their facilitating just such a reality?

Oh, that'd be you, wouldn't it OLB? You're the fucking reason that cops maced the girl - it makes as much, and probably more, sense than your own dumpster fire of a position. The cops themselves are let down, but not by the brutality of society as some comment on the never-changing reality of the universe. It's you. Your insistence. Your excuses. Your assent. Your seething contempt.

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If we really wanted to go down the rabbit hole, we can understand actual human beings who aren't bears or rattlesnakes or robots or gravity doing something that doesn't reflect their best or truest self as a product of an institution.

Ironically, an assessment that damns the institution is the only way that the individuals can be rehabilitated as actual people (and I know how much rehabilitation of virtue and value means to your lot). Bad apples and jackboots like gravity can suck a dick. When good apples do bad things, we have an issue, we have something that does require some explanation.. some solution. I doubt that many cops dream of being cops because they want to kick the living shit out of people, and I doubt that many cops wake up gleefully anticipating the moment they get to mace a nine year old girl.

...and yet...

[Ranjr]

Now I get it.  Cops are only human and allowed to make mistakes.  Parents aren't.  Cool.  I feel both edgy and woke.

[The Grand Nudger]

Bears and rattlesnakes and gravity don't make mistakes. Only parents make mistakes.

As others have found occassion to express..theres just so much of this shit that surprising to have to say out loud. It's because cops are people who -aren't- allowed to make these mistakes that we shouldn't make the mistake of blaming the parents for cops being bad at their jobs.