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Poll: If There Were a God, Would You be Angry with Him?
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No.
33.33%
3 33.33%
Yes, but only for not intervening against human evil.
0%
0 0%
Yes, because I believe natural evil exists & it ought not to.
55.56%
5 55.56%
None of the above, I would only be angry if this God upheld the immoral proscriptions of the Old Testament.
11.11%
1 11.11%
Total 9 vote(s) 100%
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Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
#11
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
Well, with these sorts of statements, we have to be careful with our language.

If human evil exists, then human evil exists in nature.

I think that what you mean to say is that nature is not capable of evil in the way that people are alleged to be. That's a fairly common position regardless of a persons underlying position on the nature of the moral field or the state of the world as it relates to any standard of virtue or deficiency.
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#12
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
(March 5, 2021 at 8:07 am)Seax Wrote:
(March 5, 2021 at 7:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Regarding the problem of evil, it strikes me that the pantheistic viewpoint is particularly cowardly. By denying both moral and natural evil, they achieve the equivalent of, 'Not my problem, brah.'

Boru

I don't deny human evil, I deny that evil exists in nature.

So humans are not part of nature?

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#13
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
I've made lots of money off of "natures evils".
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#14
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
(March 5, 2021 at 9:22 am)brewer Wrote: I've made lots of money off of "natures evils".

Yeah, because you're a vile Repub.
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#15
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
Snake handlers make money off of natures evils. There's money to be had in dealing with evil, on some level, because we wish to avoid it entirely. It's a moral and practical imperative, lol.

It's also why we invest those characters who handle evil in our stead with reputation or honor. A somethingness that service imparts.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#16
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
(March 5, 2021 at 9:24 am)Eleven Wrote:
(March 5, 2021 at 9:22 am)brewer Wrote: I've made lots of money off of "natures evils".

Yeah, because you're a vile Repub.

Nope. Think boy, you're making your money off of natures evils also. You just need to take it to the next level.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#17
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
(March 5, 2021 at 9:29 am)brewer Wrote: Nope. Think boy, you're making your money off of natures evils also. You just need to take it to the next level.

If you mean ungrateful children who can't be bothered with their parents, you might be right.
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#18
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
Children are one of natures chaotic evils. We get better as adults. Lawful evil.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#19
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
Wow. There was enough straw in that OP to build an army.

As to the poll:



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#20
RE: Atheism, Gnosticism & the Problem of Evil
(March 5, 2021 at 9:30 am)Eleven Wrote:
(March 5, 2021 at 9:29 am)brewer Wrote: Nope. Think boy, you're making your money off of natures evils also. You just need to take it to the next level.

If you mean ungrateful children who can't be bothered with their parents, you might be right.

Panic

Hilarious

Banging Head On Desk
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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