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RE: Weapons in hotel, Denver
July 12, 2021 at 3:29 pm
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Make me a bet - genius....
I say Keegan Casteel will be offered.a ridiculous misdemeanor to plead guilty to - and he won't even get fined more than a couple thousand bucks ) if any).
No jail time.
Reason - bullshit charges.
If you REALLY think he is some felonious motherfucker - he will get prison time.
So... Jail time - you win. No jail time - I win.
Loser is the winner's bitch and gets a year off the board...
Put up or shut up.
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RE: Weapons in hotel, Denver
July 12, 2021 at 3:47 pm
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People plead down all the time. : shrugs :
I would expect either man to pay a fine, since neither man ever got around to mass murder. Just like last time, any additional charges, those charges you could either understand or don’t have a fundamental disagreement with, will be born out by whatever either man was doing on Facebook.
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RE: Weapons in hotel, Denver
July 12, 2021 at 4:00 pm
(July 12, 2021 at 3:47 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: People plead down all the time. : shrugs :
I would expect either man to pay a fine, since neither man ever got around to mass murder. Just like last time, any additional charges, those charges you could either understand or don’t have a fundamental disagreement with, will be born out by whatever either man was doing on Facebook. True, What he gets charged with is irrelevant to what his attentions were.
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RE: Weapons in hotel, Denver
July 12, 2021 at 4:34 pm
(July 12, 2021 at 3:47 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: People plead down all the time. : shrugs :
I would expect either man to pay a fine, since neither man ever got around to mass murder. Just like last time, any additional charges, thoose charges you could either understand or don’t have a fundamental disagreement with, will be born out by whatever either man was doing on Facebook.
Just what I figured.
No sack.
Typical.
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RE: Weapons in hotel, Denver
July 12, 2021 at 4:45 pm
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Quote:Just what I figured.
No sack.
Typical.
No just no time or interest in childish games
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RE: Weapons in hotel, Denver
July 12, 2021 at 4:49 pm
Nobody asked you Florence...
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RE: Weapons in hotel, Denver
July 12, 2021 at 4:50 pm
Ok so what I hear on this one is:
1. Transporting guns in a disapproved manner - again
Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. As defined by 49 CFR 1540.5 a loaded firearm has a live round of ammunition, or any component thereof, in the chamber or cylinder or in a magazine inserted in the firearm.
2. Not registered to carry at the destination. - again, assumed for some since they were charged as possession by previous offenders
we can add
3. Drugs for distribution and previous felonies
Sounds like the very best he was an irresponsible illegal gun owner and worst an irresponsible loon. Yup sounds like the right call again to arrest them as well. So why defend one but not the other?
I think people are getting hung up on intent. To my knowledge we're not policing thought crimes in their entirety yet. It may factor into sentence which it obviously should in these 2 incidences, IMO. Merely from the news article facts, if they're true seem to indicate guilt of both, I don't see how either could be defended.
Maybe we're not focusing on the right angle .... @ onlinebiker How/Why would you transport a rack of guns across state lines to check into a hotel for a sporting event the next day?
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RE: Weapons in hotel, Denver
July 12, 2021 at 4:50 pm
I doubt that whether a given American has sack is as prescient a concern as how many Americans…like you and either man, apparently believe that this silly shit is legal.
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RE: Weapons in hotel, Denver
July 12, 2021 at 4:53 pm
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Quote:Nobody asked you Florence...
I don't need anyone's permission idiot 
(July 12, 2021 at 4:50 pm)tackattack Wrote: Ok so what I hear on this one is:
1. Transporting guns in a disapproved manner - again
Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. As defined by 49 CFR 1540.5 a loaded firearm has a live round of ammunition, or any component thereof, in the chamber or cylinder or in a magazine inserted in the firearm.
2. Not registered to carry at the destination. - again, assumed for some since they were charged as possession by previous offenders
we can add
3. Drugs for distribution and previous felonies
Sounds like the very best he was an irresponsible illegal gun owner and worst an irresponsible loon. Yup sounds like the right call again to arrest them as well. So why defend one but not the other?
I think people are getting hung up on intent. To my knowledge we're not policing thought crimes in their entirety yet. It may factor into sentence which it obviously should in these 2 incidences, IMO. Merely from the news article facts, if they're true seem to indicate guilt of both, I don't see how either could be defended.
Maybe we're not focusing on the right angle .... @onlinebiker How/Why would you transport a rack of guns across state lines to check into a hotel for a sporting event the next day? Good take 
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RE: Weapons in hotel, Denver
July 12, 2021 at 5:04 pm
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I can only speak from my experience on interstate transport of firearms. I worked in Florida for a few years, and flew back and forth to California upwards of 50 round trips. I checked my firearms at the counter, and demonstrated that they were unloaded. They then got in with the checked baggage. I'm pretty sure I didn't pack any ammo; I just don't remember, as the last time I took a firearm on a "trip" was in '06. The laws may have changed.
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