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One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
(August 22, 2021 at 12:23 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(August 22, 2021 at 10:40 am)Ravenshire Wrote: You really should demand a raise. You're doing your gawd's bitch-work and you're not even getting minimum wage.  Doh

Good to know that you recognize the shit you spew as propaganda, though. Smile

Propaganda is defined to be:


Quote:propaganda

/prɒpəˈɡandə/
noun

  1. 1.
    information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view.
    "he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda"



(Google search for the term: definition of propaganda)

The information I provide are not biased to any institution; they are straightforwardly built on verses from the "Quran", and the verses are quoted by the letter.
Also they are not misleading at all; I post my opinions along with the Quranic verses I used to build my opinion; without cutting the context of the verses or messing with their "Chronological order".

A big plus to my method is not using the Hadith books to build my opinions. Actually, I found scandals and big mess ups that so many Sunni/Shiite scholars try so bad to coverup.

So what propaganda? everything I write in the context of religious thought is directly based on the Quran; if my post was based on a personal thought without Quranic light I say so.

Source for your definition? Because propaganda has many more definitions than that one (one I couldn't find).

Here are mine (my emphasis):
Quote:Definition of propaganda (Merriam-Webster)
1. capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3: ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause
also : a public action having such an effect

Definition of propaganda (Britannica)
dissemination of information—facts, arguments, rumours, half-truths, or lies—to influence public opinion.

Definition of propaganda (dictionary.com)
1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.
2. the deliberate spreading of such information, rumors, etc.
3. the particular doctrines or principles propagated by an organization or movement.
4. Roman Catholic Church.
     a committee of cardinals, established in 1622 by Pope Gregory XV, having supervision over foreign missions and the training of priests for these missions.
     a school (College of Propaganda ) established by Pope Urban VIII for the education of priests for foreign missions.
5. Archaic. an organization or movement for the spreading of propaganda.

Definition of propaganda (Wiki)
the expression of opinions or actions carried out deliberately by individuals or groups with a view to influencing the opinions or actions of other individuals or groups for predetermined ends and through psychological manipulations.
The Wiki definition is my favorite, and the best description of what you're doing, but the other bolded definitions are pretty good too.

Spewing propaganda and not even getting paid. That's a damned shame. Since your gawd is a fairy tale and can't pay you, I recommend you hit up your local shaman/magician/wizard/what the fuck ever, who probably won't pay you, and show them your work. But, maybe they'll pass the hat and get you a pity payment.
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
(August 22, 2021 at 3:42 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(August 22, 2021 at 12:23 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Propaganda is defined to be:




(Google search for the term: definition of propaganda)

The information I provide are not biased to any institution; they are straightforwardly built on verses from the "Quran", and the verses are quoted by the letter.
Also they are not misleading at all; I post my opinions along with the Quranic verses I used to build my opinion; without cutting the context of the verses or messing with their "Chronological order".

A big plus to my method is not using the Hadith books to build my opinions. Actually, I found scandals and big mess ups that so many Sunni/Shiite scholars try so bad to coverup.

So what propaganda? everything I write in the context of religious thought is directly based on the Quran; if my post was based on a personal thought without Quranic light I say so.

Source for your definition? Because propaganda has many more definitions than that one (one I couldn't find).

Here are mine (my emphasis):
Quote:Definition of propaganda (Merriam-Webster)
1. capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3: ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause
also : a public action having such an effect

Definition of propaganda (Britannica)
dissemination of information—facts, arguments, rumours, half-truths, or lies—to influence public opinion.

Definition of propaganda (dictionary.com)
1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.
2. the deliberate spreading of such information, rumors, etc.
3. the particular doctrines or principles propagated by an organization or movement.
4. Roman Catholic Church.
     a committee of cardinals, established in 1622 by Pope Gregory XV, having supervision over foreign missions and the training of priests for these missions.
     a school (College of Propaganda ) established by Pope Urban VIII for the education of priests for foreign missions.
5. Archaic. an organization or movement for the spreading of propaganda.

Definition of propaganda (Wiki)
the expression of opinions or actions carried out deliberately by individuals or groups with a view to influencing the opinions or actions of other individuals or groups for predetermined ends and through psychological manipulations.
The Wiki definition is my favorite, and the best description of what you're doing, but the other bolded definitions are pretty good too.

Spewing propaganda and not even getting paid. That's a damned shame. Since your gawd is a fairy tale and can't pay you, I recommend you hit up your local shaman/magician/wizard/what the fuck ever, who probably won't pay you, and show them your work. But, maybe they'll pass the hat and get you a pity payment.

My definition's source is "Definitions from Oxford Languages".

And my God does pay in with all kinds of blessings; I mean he owns the cosmos itself, unknown numbers of worlds like ours; our very souls and more. Infinite property only he knows its borders.

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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
(August 22, 2021 at 4:32 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(August 22, 2021 at 3:42 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Source for your definition? Because propaganda has many more definitions than that one (one I couldn't find).

Here are mine (my emphasis):
The Wiki definition is my favorite, and the best description of what you're doing, but the other bolded definitions are pretty good too.

Spewing propaganda and not even getting paid. That's a damned shame. Since your gawd is a fairy tale and can't pay you, I recommend you hit up your local shaman/magician/wizard/what the fuck ever, who probably won't pay you, and show them your work. But, maybe they'll pass the hat and get you a pity payment.

My definition's source is "Definitions from Oxford Languages".

And my God does pay in with all kinds of blessings; I mean he owns the cosmos itself, unknown numbers of worlds like ours; our very souls and more. Infinite property only he knows its borders.

The basecase of this universe. what's before it and what ever might come from it in the future.

Not much of an entry there, but it's understandable that you cherry picked it from all the definitions since it suited your disingenuous purpose.

Your gawd pays shit and owns fuck all except a bit of your mind. Imaginary friends are like that. If you really want to change minds here, evidence is the key, not the propaganda you've been spewing, and make no mistake, it is propaganda.
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
(August 22, 2021 at 4:43 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(August 22, 2021 at 4:32 pm)WinterHold Wrote: My definition's source is "Definitions from Oxford Languages".

And my God does pay in with all kinds of blessings; I mean he owns the cosmos itself, unknown numbers of worlds like ours; our very souls and more. Infinite property only he knows its borders.

The basecase of this universe. what's before it and what ever might come from it in the future.

Not much of an entry there, but it's understandable that you cherry picked it from all the definitions since it suited your disingenuous purpose.

Your gawd pays shit and owns fuck all except a bit of your mind. Imaginary friends are like that. If you really want to change minds here, evidence is the key, not the propaganda you've been spewing, and make no mistake, it is propaganda.

Read your comment again then ask yourself: is this worth replying to?
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
(August 23, 2021 at 6:02 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(August 22, 2021 at 4:43 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Not much of an entry there, but it's understandable that you cherry picked it from all the definitions since it suited your disingenuous purpose.

Your gawd pays shit and owns fuck all except a bit of your mind. Imaginary friends are like that. If you really want to change minds here, evidence is the key, not the propaganda you've been spewing, and make no mistake, it is propaganda.

Read your comment again then ask yourself: is this worth replying to?

It strikes me that you simply have no response. Your disingenuous arguments and your propaganda have been exposed , you have utterly failed to convince anyone here of the truth of your bullshit claims and you have no answers to any of that. In your shoes, I would slink off in shame. Suck you be you.
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
(August 23, 2021 at 6:16 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(August 23, 2021 at 6:02 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Read your comment again then ask yourself: is this worth replying to?

It strikes me that you simply have no response. Your disingenuous arguments and your propaganda have been exposed , you have utterly failed to convince anyone here of the truth of your bullshit claims and you have no answers to any of that. In your shoes, I would slink off in shame. Suck you be you.

What is "exposed"? here, I'll tell you what everybody knows about me here and you can visit my past topics too:

1-I love Islam and loyal to God.
2-I'm against what Muslims did to themselves and to their lands (turning to proxies for superpowers and non-Muslims who played soccer with their fates)
3-I hold Muslims to blame for so many things including the scary spread of pedophilia in their lands, the terrible treatment of women in many parts of the Muslim world.
4-I'm not a "bitch" for the west either: actually I believe western nations are Gog and Magog, I do believe that non-Muslims commit the hugest sin ever made on this planet and that is the invention of atomic weapons, I do believe that the military power of Gog and Magog would contribute to bringing the end of this planet.
5-The west also created an interest-based economy that favors the rich and pulvarises the weak. That perhaps is how Gog and Magog militaries keep the revenue coming from the deadly wars they start.

This is me, this is who I'm, so what's next?
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
You are a deranged nutcase
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
(August 23, 2021 at 6:42 pm)Helios Wrote: You are a deranged nutcase

Yeah. @WinterHold I'll go with this. I'm also going to follow my own advice and quit giving you the opportunity to drag me down to your level. I'm just not interested in arguing with your brand of stupid.
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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
(August 23, 2021 at 6:29 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 1-I love Islam and loyal to God.
Does loving god require that you cheer for the suffering of other muslims - or are they getting the stick by association with the great satan?
Quote:2-I'm against what Muslims did to themselves and to their lands (turning to proxies for superpowers and non-Muslims who played soccer with their fates)
Are you not against what the taliban did, does, and promises to do again..to muslims?
Quote:3-I hold Muslims to blame for so many things including the scary spread of pedophilia in their lands, the terrible treatment of women in many parts of the Muslim world.
That, presumably, includes the taliban..no?
Quote:4-I'm not a "bitch" for the west either: actually I believe western nations are Gog and Magog, I do believe that non-Muslims commit the hugest sin ever made on this planet and that is the invention of atomic weapons, I do believe that the military power of Gog and Magog would contribute to bringing the end of this planet.
High praise.  Can anyone other than Gog and Magog..and god..claim that much power?  Puts us in rarified company - you might have to rethink whether or not you're the wests bitch - if you think we're that mighty.  Who do you think taught you to believe that....?
Quote:5-The west also created an interest-based economy that favors the rich and pulvarises the weak. That perhaps is how Gog and Magog militaries keep the revenue coming from the deadly wars they start.
This is me, this is who I'm, so what's next?
We didn't invent money or interest, nor did we come up with the concept of pulverizing the weak, in point of actual fact.  I don't know what schools are like where you're at - but you'll find those notable moments in history occurred in africa and the near and middle east before our civilizations were a twinkle in some cave dwelling savages eye.  I suppose I'd be a bit upset if the world order disadvantaged me, or disfavored me in any way - but I might wonder why my society or culture or civilization was determined to be so retrograde as to put themselves at a loss to upstart yokels who only got into the civilization game yesterday, comparatively speaking.

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RE: One of the Co-founders of Taliban,Likely to be Afghanistan New President
Quote:Are you not against what the taliban did, does, and promises to do again..to muslims?


The Taliban are a different cup of tea in terms of Islamic militant groups; actually they showed their true colors when they started a war against "ISIS":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban%E2...fghanistan

Quote:The Taliban–ISIL conflict in Afghanistan was an armed conflict between the Taliban and the Islamic State's Khorasan branch. The Haqqani Network supports Taliban while ISIL is supported by Anti-Taliban group, the High Council of Afghanistan Emirate, led by Islamist Muhammad Rasul.[11][12]
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Just like Syria and Iraq; ISIS wackos came to demolish any real "Islamic" movement, but thank God for the Taliban victory against this fishy proxy that I seriously link to international camps working to fight Islam.

So yes; the Taliban did change from the days of 9/11.


Quote:That, presumably, includes the taliban..no?

Totally.

They were warned to have me and many like me as enemies if they ever supported the proxies coming  to demolish Islam and spread blood spilling and murder (proxies like ISIS).


Quote:High praise.  Can anyone other than Gog and Magog..and god..claim that much power?  Puts us in rarified company - you might have to rethink whether or not you're the wests bitch - if you think we're that mighty.  Who do you think taught you to believe that....?

Don't praise yourself; other nations before the west was even stronger, more organized and more influential, did you forget the Romans or Ancient Egyptians, Sumerians or Persians? to be honest if it wasn't for the "industrial revolution" and the contributions of scientists from allover the world; Gog and Magog nation would not even stand a chance to develop a quarter of revenue from the civilization they made.

Let's not forget that the "algorithm" is the invention of [url=https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5CHFA_enSA959SA959&sxsrf=ALeKk02RcmHnV8SS79mlQELufrxdLCUttw:1629855193984&q=Muhammad+ibn+Musa+al-Khwarizmi&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLUz9U3MIrPSs97xGjCLfDyxz1hKe1Ja05eY1Tl4grOyC93zSvJLKkUEudig7J4pbi5ELp4FrHK-ZZmJObmJqYoZCblKfiWFicqJOboemeUJxZlVuVmAgBD2SdzZQAAAA]Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi
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Many people today are "bitches for the west" because the west is "victorious and mighty". Just like hordes of humans were bitches for previous victorious civilizations. It's a huge issue with human beings.


Quote:We didn't invent money or interest, nor did we come up with the concept of pulverizing the weak, in point of actual fact.  I don't know what schools are like where you're at - but you'll find those notable moments in history occurred in africa and the near and middle east before our civilizations were a twinkle in some cave dwelling savages eye.  I suppose I'd be a bit upset if the world order disadvantaged me, or disfavored me in any way - but I might wonder why my society or culture or civilization was determined to be so retrograde as to put themselves at a loss to upstart yokels who only got into the civilization game yesterday, comparatively speaking.

The oldest University in the world is actually an "Islamic invention" called "University of al-Qarawiyyin":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University...Qarawiyyin


Quote:The University of al-Qarawiyyin (Arabic: جامعة القرويين‎; Berber : ⵜⴰⵙⴷⴰⵡⵉⵜ ⵏ ⵍⵇⴰⵕⴰⵡⵉⵢⵢⵉⵏ; French: Université Al Quaraouiyine), also written Al-Karaouine or Al Quaraouiyine, is a university located in FezMorocco. It was founded as a mosque by Fatima al-Fihri in 859 and subsequently became one of the leading spiritual and educational centers of the historic Muslim world.

Your civilization prefers this version of things because it brings "fast and huge revenue"; but they never learn that after the fast revenue a huge depression comes.

Take the example of the interest-based bank system: for short years it brought the victors in WW2 huge revenues; now the depression started and old commodities became obsolete. 

Building your civilization on a weak, fragile base will make it collapse in the future: especially when it grows in size.
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