Atheism and the existence of peanut butter

[The Grand Nudger]

Like so many other trivial theists he imagines that proving cuntgod is real, if he could, will make everyone a muslim.  I try to tell these dipshits that they're barking up the wrong tree from the outset, but they never listen.

There is no possible discussion about Islam if we don't agree on the existence of a God with some properties.

That's never been the problem between you and the boards.

The problem has always been that you insist on idiotic shit as that ageement...and...as that necessity...such that if idiotic shit isn't true, your god isn't real by your own silly metrics.

The ball has always been in your court. You're the one applying a garrote to your god, not me.

[Jehanne]

Even if you are right, you are still wrong.  If there is a God, so what?

Good question.

If there is a God who cares about us, he must have communicated with us in some form. The next step is then to investigate the major religious experiences, and whether any of them might come from God. However if we fail to prove that God is benevolent, then yes, the entire question becomes futile.

Yours is a stream of improbabilities multipled together.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Good question.

If there is a God who cares about us, he must have communicated with us in some form. The next step is then to investigate the major religious experiences, and whether any of them might come from God. However if we fail to prove that God is benevolent, then yes, the entire question becomes futile.

Yours is a stream of improbabilities multipled together.

Your being far to generous 

[R00tKiT]

There is no possible discussion about Islam if we don't agree on the existence of a God with some properties.

That's never been the problem between you and the boards.

The problem has always been that you insist on idiotic shit as that ageement...and...as that necessity...such that if idiotic shit isn't true, your god isn't real by your own silly metrics.

The ball has always been in your court.

I think I finally understand your problem. You're confusing necessary condition with sufficient condition. X being a sufficient condition to prove a deity (say, causality or some other principle) doesn't mean that if X is wrong, the deity doesn't exist..............

I am aware that the burden of proof is on me... but why do you keep saying that God as in Islam doesn't exist? Why can't He be the same as the designer or the first cause?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Nah, he's just seen through your bullshit 

[The Grand Nudger]

Consider this, Kloro...you wasted your time trying to apply christian apologetics to your stupid islamic god...not understanding that their claim disproves your own, and all the while laboring under the assumption that christianity would be more compelling to the people here.

You're ridiculous.

More personally...I'm not nor have I ever been a christian, and so..garbage tailored to christians doesn't move me - and a competent person might realize this.

I keep saying that your god isn't real..because it isn't - but particularly in your own case, islamo-god stands in for whatever you are too personally stupid to know, and whatever you personally get wrong is, apparently, a logical demonstration of your gods nonexistence. Self inflicted wounds, as another (god bothering) poster recently commented on.

[Nay_Sayer]

Once again you fall overself into mud while everyone laughs and then take a victory lap.

Once again you've lost and pastafarinism wins again.

You sound a bit too pushy for a calm pastafarian, Nay_sayer.

In what way, at all, was that pushy. 

Lay off the pipe amigo.

Thoughts and prayers.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Consider this, Kloro...you wasted your time trying to apply christian apologetics to your stupid islamic god...not understanding that their claim disproves your own, and all the while laboring under the assumption that christianity would be more compelling to the people here.

You're ridiculous.

Hell even if he tried to prove the Islamic God he would fail just as hard.

[Nay_Sayer]

No no, see if you declare victory it makes it so. Even when you have been utterly destroyed 

You also destroyed grammar in the process, Helios. 

Any and all grammar mistakes are deliberately left in for you and those with no other rejoinder.

[R00tKiT]

Consider this, Kloro...you wasted your time trying to apply christian apologetics to your stupid islamic god...not understanding that their claim disproves your own, and all the while laboring under the assumption that christianity would be more compelling to the people here.

You're ridiculous.

More personally...I'm not nor have I ever been a christian, and so..garbage tailored to christians doesn't move me - and a competent person might realize this.

I keep saying that your god isn't real..because it isn't - but particularly in your own case, islamo-god stands in for whatever you are too personally stupid to know, and whatever you personally get wrong is, apparently, a logical demonstration of your gods nonexistence.  Self inflicted wounds, as another (god bothering) poster recently commented on.

So, no answer then. Are necessary and sufficient conditions too hard for your brain to handle? Because I really think I touched on a sore spot.

Using christian apologetics doesn't disprove any other religion, that's a silly assertion you have there, it doesn't unless we're using the parts of their apologetics about Jesus.. but I guess you are too personally stupid to know. *shrugs*