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Internet Utopia
#61
RE: Internet Utopia
(October 5, 2021 at 9:07 am)Spongebob Wrote:
(October 5, 2021 at 9:04 am)Ahriman Wrote: I don't mind being criticized, I just don't think criticism (in general) is all that important, in terms of forming a world view. I don't know if you could say I'm "delusional", maybe I am, maybe I'm not. I don't care.

That makes two of us.
Really? Someone as conscientious as you, doesn't care?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#62
RE: Internet Utopia
(October 5, 2021 at 9:04 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 4, 2021 at 9:56 pm)Spongebob Wrote: Are you too soft for criticism?

If I go around spouting off any old crap I want and no one challenges me, then its me who's getting hurt because I believe I know something when in fact I'm ignorant.  I'll go on to say that if you truly feel that you don't need guidance from others, then you truly are delusional.
I don't mind being criticized, I just don't think criticism (in general) is all that important, in terms of forming a world view. I don't know if you could say I'm "delusional", maybe I am, maybe I'm not. I don't care.

you really don't care if whatever nonsense you believe is true or not? Would you not need to know that?
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#63
RE: Internet Utopia
Delusional? Nah, you're jst nt smrt. You don't have the skill to elucidate whatever worldview you hold..and generously, no criticism based on your mushmouth here really sticks to your internally held worldview, which you are incapable of lucidly and accurately expressing.

Practice would help, and here we are - yet another service af provides.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#64
RE: Internet Utopia
(October 5, 2021 at 2:50 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(October 5, 2021 at 9:04 am)Ahriman Wrote: I don't mind being criticized, I just don't think criticism (in general) is all that important, in terms of forming a world view. I don't know if you could say I'm "delusional", maybe I am, maybe I'm not. I don't care.

you really don't care if whatever nonsense you believe is true or not? Would you not need to know that?
I could spend the rest of my life trying to find out what's "true", and probably never even find out, or I could simply believe whatever I want and be happy. Really tough choice.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#65
RE: Internet Utopia
You could, but it probably wouldn't take the rest of your life to learn how to accurately communicate what you already believe is true. I've watched people like yourself fail to avail themselves of that opportunity, here on these boards, for a decade.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#66
RE: Internet Utopia
(October 5, 2021 at 3:01 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I could spend the rest of my life trying to find out what's "true", and probably never even find out, or I could simply believe whatever I want and be happy. Really tough choice.

A good approximation of truth is definitely better than a delusion. A false belief can put you into conflict with reality, destroying all the happiness that you had previously gained from it.
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#67
RE: Internet Utopia
(October 5, 2021 at 3:01 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(October 5, 2021 at 2:50 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: you really don't care if whatever nonsense you believe is true or not? Would you not need to know that?
I could spend the rest of my life trying to find out what's "true", and probably never even find out, or I could simply believe whatever I want and be happy. Really tough choice.

You are the poster child for 'Ignorance is Bliss'.
  
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
                                      
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#68
RE: Internet Utopia
The kicker here is that it's completely irrelevant whether or not Ahri spends his life figuring out what the truth is - already believes many things which cannot be true by reference to each other. It takes no extra time to figure that out.

That, for example, god is good because it answers his prayers and believing as much even if it weren't true makes him feel good..but... also that god certainly isn't benevolent because it doesn't answer every prayer and for those people, believing makes them feel like unworthy shit. A position which he seconds, talking about the rights of those people, ignoring his similarly deficient position with regards to the same.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#69
RE: Internet Utopia
(October 5, 2021 at 3:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The kicker here is that it's completely irrelevant whether or not Ahri spends his life figuring out what the truth is -  already believes many things which cannot be true by reference to each other.  It takes no extra time to figure that out.

That, for example, god is good because it answers his prayers and believing as much even if it weren't true makes him feel good..but... also that god certainly isn't benevolent because it doesn't answer every prayer and for those people, believing makes them feel like unworthy shit.  A position which he seconds, talking about the rights of those people, ignoring his similarly deficient position with regards to the same.
God is good to me and that's all that matters. If God is not good to other people, then those people clearly do not deserve God's goodness.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#70
RE: Internet Utopia
You're not arguing with me, in this response, at all. You're acknowledging that if god curbstomps a child to give you the lollipop you prayed for, you'd call it good...


.....for you.

That implies that you know it might not be good for other people. Or..you know..just good. I don't think that you're speaking authoritatively about what people deserve. Just because you have some asshole boyfriend who's ...sometimes.... good™..... to you, that doesn't mean that this asshole being an asshole to other people means that they deserve it...or don't deserve better. Hell, it doesn't even mean that -you- don't deserve better.

But that's all academic, since it's not what you actually believe, is it? Am I saying anything that you aren't already aware of?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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