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Oakland School Shooting
#41
RE: Oakland School Shooting
(December 2, 2021 at 6:15 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(December 2, 2021 at 6:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Short version: America doesn’t charge children as adults unless they feel like it.

Boru

Some people just need jailing.... ( nod to Barry Eisler)

 Indeed.

There are also people society can do without. That's why I support capital punishment in principle.  In practice, I have one caveat:   The government must be able to guarantee that 100% of death sentence convictions are safe.
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#42
RE: Oakland School Shooting
And I reject it even on principle because i deem it irrational
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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#43
RE: Oakland School Shooting
(December 2, 2021 at 7:29 pm)Helios Wrote: And I reject it even on principle because i deem it irrational

 Not much of a reason to reject something.

Next thing you'll be saying you reject religion for the same reason. Cool
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#44
RE: Oakland School Shooting
Quote: Not much of a reason to reject something.
I think it's a pretty good reason  Cool


Quote:Next thing you'll be saying you reject religion for the same reason. [Image: cool.gif]
I Do  Cool
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#45
RE: Oakland School Shooting
(December 2, 2021 at 6:55 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(December 2, 2021 at 6:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Short version: America doesn’t charge children as adults unless they feel like it.

Boru
And the funny thing is, while Biker has a point that some kids know better, it seems like the severity of the crime is more often a factor than the mental capacity of the child on trial.

If children can be tried as adults, then there is no point in having an age of majority for…well…anything. If a 15 year old is fit and emotionally mature, they can undertake military service. If an 11 year old grasps the issues, they can vote.

There are reasons that societies pick an age when a person becomes a legal adult. I agree with you - charging a child as an adult is an emotional response.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#46
RE: Oakland School Shooting
(December 2, 2021 at 7:51 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote: Not much of a reason to reject something.
I think it's a pretty good reason  Cool


Quote:Next thing you'll be saying you reject religion for the same reason. [Image: cool.gif]
I Do  Cool

 Oh for goodness sake, I was  taking the piss.

OF course, it's perfectly reasonable to reject a bunch of things because  of irrationality.  Sadly, such reasons are often lacking in human behaviour.  Human beings are not so much ration-al beings as rational-ising beings. You and I excepted of course.  Angel


As far as I'm aware that as a general principle, any decision made where there is a conflict between emotion and reason, emotion almost always wins.   People are always capable of coming up with rational decisions for behaviour after the fact. Once again, you and I excepted.   Angel
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#47
RE: Oakland School Shooting
This is sad. I'm saddened by how many fucking gun shootings there seems to be in this fucking country of mine. And the bad part is I think people are starting to get immune to it because of how often it happens now.
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#48
RE: Oakland School Shooting
When a society reveres gun culture, there are going to be gross mass casualties.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#49
RE: Oakland School Shooting
(December 2, 2021 at 8:00 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote:
(December 2, 2021 at 7:51 pm)Helios Wrote: I think it's a pretty good reason  Cool


I Do  Cool

 Oh for goodness sake, I was  taking the piss.

OF course, it's perfectly reasonable to reject a bunch of things because  of irrationality.  Sadly, such reasons are often lacking in human behaviour.  Human beings are not so much ration-al beings as rational-ising beings. You and I excepted of course.  Angel


As far as I'm aware that as a general principle, any decision made where there is a conflict between emotion and reason, emotion almost always wins.   People are always capable of coming up with rational decisions for behaviour after the fact. Once again, you and I excepted.   Angel
So was i. It's why used the same Emoji as you
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#50
RE: Oakland School Shooting
(December 2, 2021 at 8:12 pm)Foxaire Wrote: When a society reveres gun culture, there are going to be gross mass casualties.

 A coincidence surely.  Angel
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