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DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
#11
RE: DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
(December 14, 2021 at 7:13 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(December 14, 2021 at 7:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’ll work out to everyone’s satisfaction. Once the Boys and the Keepers realize what deep shit the lawsuit puts them in, they’ll produce the actual names with a speed that would make Usain Bolt gulp with disbelief. For all their bluster, they’re cowards who will peach on their mates to save their own skins.

Boru
And you are of course assuming that the actual named members did all the dirty - 

And not some random. anonymous asshat who tagged along for the party......

I’m not assuming anything of the kind. Who did what is an issue for trial, not for filing a lawsuit.

Boru
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#12
RE: DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
(December 14, 2021 at 6:19 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: 1. Who do they sue? I doubt either of those groups have a list of all members. How can the plaintiff (DC) identify who is to respond? If you CAN prove that a person is a member - how can that person get a fair trial? Are all respondants entitled to their own lawyer???

2. Do you think this kind of monkeyfuck is a good idea??? Will you still think it' s a good idea when " the other side" uses the same tactic? Because - they will.

.....

I wonder if Portland, Seattle and all the other cities that suffered damage and deaths (and there was more than DC) will sue BLM and ANTIFA into oblivion???


Protest - sue - protest - sue -  repeat as necessary.
1) The Promise Keepers and Proud Boys have an organizational structure, and they have leadership that can be held accountable for the crimes they committed. It's not like this is the first time an organization instead of a person has been sued. And I suspect that they're going to focus more on the leadership that masterminded (if such a word can apply to such orgs) the crimes so it doesn't end up like this:




2) It's not like this sort of shit is unprecedented. The government has sued hate groups before, and has even been successful in breaking them up before. In the aftermath of the lynching of Michael Donald, a civil lawsuit was brought against the United Klans of America (the group that the attackers in question belonged to), one of their leaders, and about 50 other Klansmen (unnamed like in this complaint.) The Klans lost. I wouldn't particularly like it if the city of Portland sued BLM or Antifa (especially since, IIRC, BLM's protests have been non-violent by a stupefyingly large margin; the few that included violence had a limited level of violence, suggesting lone wolves and not BLM egging them on; BLM doesn't advocate for violence; and, oh, yeah, unlike the Proud Boys, the Promise Keepers, and BLM, Antifa has no organizational structure that can be used in a lawsuit, suggesting that they'd need to use another tack with them), but I don't think that this case would be a worrisome precedent. Any precedent to be worried about in this case would have happened before I was even born.
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#13
RE: DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
Promise Keepers?: https://promisekeepers.org/promise-keepers/about-us-2/

Maybe we are in deeper shit than I realize. Hehe
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#14
RE: DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
(December 14, 2021 at 7:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 14, 2021 at 6:57 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Only a lawyer would find accusing somebody you haven' t named yet as acceptable.

Edit to add


Why not throw in a few extra charges of wrongdoing?

Those might turn up too....

Dodgy

It’ll work out to everyone’s satisfaction. Once the Boys and the Keepers realize what deep shit the lawsuit puts them in, they’ll produce the actual names with a speed that would make Usain Bolt gulp with disbelief. For all their bluster, they’re cowards who will peach on their mates to save their own skins.

Boru
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#15
RE: DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
Perhaps there is something more going on here than meets the eye:

[Image: proudboyskilt.jpeg?width=990&auto=webp&q...:726,smart]

As a biological male, I wear these types of clothes, although, I prefer sandals.
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#16
RE: DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
(December 14, 2021 at 7:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 14, 2021 at 7:13 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: And you are of course assuming that the actual named members did all the dirty - 

And not some random. anonymous asshat who tagged along for the party......

I’m not assuming anything of the kind. Who did what is an issue for trial, not for filing a lawsuit.

Boru
Sorry - that was a " royal you" - i.e. not targeted at anyone.. It would have been better to say " the plaintiff's attorney team".

" you" was shorter - but ended up costing me MORE finger fucking this tiny assed phone keyboard... I really should use the PC....
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#17
RE: DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
(December 14, 2021 at 8:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Perhaps there is something more going on here than meets the eye:

[Image: proudboyskilt.jpeg?width=990&auto=webp&q...:726,smart]

As a biological male, I wear these types of clothes, although, I prefer sandals.

That looks like a Justus Check tartan to me. Well, at least they’re not ruining a classic tartan.
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#18
RE: DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
Caution tape camo.

I prefer the red and black.

(December 14, 2021 at 7:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’ll work out to everyone’s satisfaction. Once the Boys and the Keepers realize what deep shit the lawsuit puts them in, they’ll produce the actual names with a speed that would make Usain Bolt gulp with disbelief. For all their bluster, they’re cowards who will peach on their mates to save their own skins.

Boru

That's the real sin.  Fuck wishing american democracy was ended.....  people have wished for that since before it started.  It's sad to see how pathetically fast they turn on each other.
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#19
RE: DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
(December 14, 2021 at 8:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Perhaps there is something more going on here than meets the eye:

[Image: proudboyskilt.jpeg?width=990&auto=webp&q...:726,smart]

As a biological male, I wear these types of clothes, although, I prefer sandals.

Another Rorschach test moment.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#20
RE: DC to Sue Promise Keepers//Proud Boys
(December 15, 2021 at 8:39 am)brewer Wrote:
(December 14, 2021 at 8:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Perhaps there is something more going on here than meets the eye:

[Image: proudboyskilt.jpeg?width=990&auto=webp&q...:726,smart]

As a biological male, I wear these types of clothes, although, I prefer sandals.

Another Rorschach test moment.

It has been said that if one goes far enough to the "right" politically, you start to emerge on the Left.  If they would only shave their legs, don some dark glasses, ditch the socks and grow out their hair, they would like nice, at least in my opinion!
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