Christianity is heading for a full allegorization

[Ferrocyanide]

'God and his people' is the obvious, surface understanding of the Bible. If it's allegorical, that stands for some other, hidden meaning. So the question of 'what is the Bible an allegory for?' remains unanswered.

Well then let me ask you this. Do you know who God's people are? If not, it's a mystery to you.

It's really not complicated.
God's people are the jewish people. It is their cultural religion.
Every culture developed their own gods, their own creation myth and various stories.
For whatever reason, the jews felt the need to identify themselves as god's chosen people.

[Jehanne]

Well then let me ask you this. Do you know who God's people are? If not, it's a mystery to you.

It's really not complicated.
God's people are the jewish people. It is their cultural religion.
Every culture developed their own gods, their own creation myth and various stories.
For whatever reason, the jews felt the need to identify themselves as god's chosen people.

In the 17th century, Britain identified themselves as being the New Israel; the United States had its belief in Manifest Destiny, the Incas, Mayans and Aztecs saw their civilizations as being the center of the Cosmos; the list is endless.

[Anomalocaris]

Anything can be taken by the reader who is determined to excuse the errors, the bullshit, the colloquial crass and barbarous insinuations, and the disgusting and nauseating exhortations,   to be “an allegory”.  

Ignorant, dim witted, overreaching authors who wrote the garbage because they thought them to be literally true or because they think they can get away with bullshit, can be made to seem like not flippant ignoramuses but timeless sages by asserting what they clearly thought were true or meant to be taken as facts, in fact they knew to be false but presented with all the good and responsible heart to be allegorical.

Any who is determined to reference wisdoms that were not really clearly put there by the author just  to add value there explicitly wasn’t there in some favored and prized tome can call the work allegorical. 

Mein kampf can be taken to be an allegory.   Literally any narrative, true or false in each degree, can be taken to be allegorical, some how.  Try hard enough, even an mathematical treatise can be, and has been, asserted to be an allegorical book of some preconceived moral wisdom.

So Bible in this particular way is an allegory, so fucking what?    what makes it less of a bad book of allegory than the worst there is out there?

[Ahriman]

Well then let me ask you this. Do you know who God's people are? If not, it's a mystery to you.

It's really not complicated.
God's people are the jewish people. It is their cultural religion.
Every culture developed their own gods, their own creation myth and various stories.
For whatever reason, the jews felt the need to identify themselves as god's chosen people.

"God's people are the Jewish people".......no, that's just an allegory. You have to dig deeper.

[Anomalocaris]

It's really not complicated.
God's people are the jewish people. It is their cultural religion.
Every culture developed their own gods, their own creation myth and various stories.
For whatever reason, the jews felt the need to identify themselves as god's chosen people.

"God's people are the Jewish people".......no, that's just an allegory. You have to dig deeper.

You are already deep in mud.  No need to dig any more

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Anything can be taken by the reader who is determined to excuse the errors, the bullshit, the colloquial crass and barbarous insinuations, and the disgusting and nauseating exhortations,   to be “an allegory”.  

Ignorant, dim witted, overreaching authors who wrote the garbage because they thought them to be literally true or because they think they can get away with bullshit, can be made to seem like not flippant ignoramuses but timeless sages by asserting what they clearly thought were true or meant to be taken as facts, in fact they knew to be false but presented with all the good and responsible heart to be allegorical.

Any who is determined to reference wisdoms that were not really clearly put there by the author just  to add value there explicitly wasn’t there in some favored and prized tome can call the work allegorical. 

Mein kampf can be taken to be an allegory.   Literally any narrative, true or false in each degree, can be taken to be allegorical, some how.  Try hard enough, even an mathematical treatise can be, and has been, asserted to be an allegorical book of some preconceived moral wisdom.

So Bible in this particular way is an allegory, so fucking what?    what makes it less of a bad book of allegory than the worst there is out there?

I largely agree. The tactic (and make no mistake - that’s exactly what it is) of declaring a passage to be allegorical is often little more than an attempt to excuse something that ranges from inconvenient to downright horrific.

Boru

[Ahriman]

"God's people are the Jewish people".......no, that's just an allegory. You have to dig deeper.

You are already deep in mud.  No need to dig any more

It's always disappointing when one of you goody two shoes refuses to learn something new. But then again, it's pathological for you.

[Anomalocaris]

You are already deep in mud.  No need to dig any more

It's always disappointing when one of you goody two shoes refuses to learn something new. But then again, it's pathological for you.

Just Made up =/= new, especially if what was made up falls completely within existing characterization and reflect same long repeated substance.

[Ahriman]

It's always disappointing when one of you goody two shoes refuses to learn something new. But then again, it's pathological for you.

Just Made up =/= new.

You wouldn't call a newborn baby new, then?

[Anomalocaris]

Just Made up =/= new.

You wouldn't call a newborn baby new, then?

Baby is actually there, not a new bullshit.