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RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 9, 2024 at 9:17 pm
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Quote:Generally we stick to an ideological binary on this forum. We hate Trump, Putin, and religion. Any statement which is insufficiently negative toward one of those subjects will be interpreted as propaganda for the enemy. Even if it's true.
Nope we stick to facts and rightly call Russian propaganda what it is and the shameless amount you have engaged in has been exposed over and over and over
Quote:For example I said I thought that Harris promising to continue the genocide in Gaza was bad. Because I'm against genocide. For this I was accused of being a Trump supporter. As if any negative statement about Harris is a positive statement in favor of Trump.
No what did was attack Harris then you were asked about Trump who wants to keep the same war going and you got awful defensive
Quote:The other day I pointed out that during my trips to China I was not followed or kept under special surveillance. I acknowledged that people more important than I am might have different experiences. For this I was accused of being a paid propagandist for China.
You essentially gurgled the CCPs nuts and tried desperately to excuse away criticism of China
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 9, 2024 at 9:32 pm
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Your work product doesn't warrant payment Bel.
Truth is quality is a non issue. They can get it for free from any magat who needs to figure out how to fit the square peg of donald trumps pj party buddies into the round hole of americas gaping wound. Russia's lease was running out and no one else wanted to rent to them. So they decided to riot and burn down the target. All the rest of this nonsense is just people looking to exploit that for unrelated bugbears they've long harbored and never found a way to express to their peers with their dignity intact.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 9, 2024 at 9:43 pm
(November 9, 2024 at 9:11 pm)Belacqua Wrote: (November 9, 2024 at 3:07 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Not really; a Putin propagandist would be pushing for more of Ukraine to be conceded rather than just pointing out the reality that the demands have not changed since the beginning.
Actually, a Putin propagandist would be doing everything they could to still find a way and get Harris into power...
Generally we stick to an ideological binary on this forum. We hate Trump, Putin, and religion. Any statement which is insufficiently negative toward one of those subjects will be interpreted as propaganda for the enemy. Even if it's true.
For example I said I thought that Harris promising to continue the genocide in Gaza was bad. Because I'm against genocide. For this I was accused of being a Trump supporter. As if any negative statement about Harris is a positive statement in favor of Trump.
The other day I pointed out that during my trips to China I was not followed or kept under special surveillance. I acknowledged that people more important than I am might have different experiences. For this I was accused of being a paid propagandist for China.
You are just a pain in the ass pseudo-intellectual trying hard to convince the people here how smart you are. That's why you swoop in on most of the new people here.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 9, 2024 at 9:44 pm
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Bel and Marten are fellow travelers. They came to the same place from different directions. America sucks. Most of the time either of them are just flapping their gums but this, I'm absolutely certain, is a deeply and genuinely held item in both of their belief systems.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 9, 2024 at 9:46 pm
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(November 9, 2024 at 9:44 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Bel and Marten are fellow travelers. They came to the same place from different directions. America sucks. Most of the time either of them are just flapping their gums but this, I;m sure, is a deeply and genuinely item in both of their belief systems.
And, oh how they brag about using the "Ignore" function...that sure hurts.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 9, 2024 at 9:48 pm
It's a bad idea..because then they don't see the realtime fact checking that all their posts get and..I bet, that makes them honestly wonder why people respond to them the way they do. Imagine if your ex gf was narrating every new date but only the new gf could hear it.
Yikes.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 9, 2024 at 9:53 pm
(November 9, 2024 at 9:46 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (November 9, 2024 at 9:44 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Bel and Marten are fellow travelers. They came to the same place from different directions. America sucks. Most of the time either of them are just flapping their gums but this, I;m sure, is a deeply and genuinely item in both of their belief systems.
And, oh how they brag about using the "Ignore" function...that sure hurts. Yup they both love to cower behind their ignore button and then try and pretend it was because you were somehow at fault to save face.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 10, 2024 at 7:26 am
(November 9, 2024 at 4:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yes, a putin propagandist would do that, by insisting that the conflict be frozen so that russia can rearm, and reinvade.
Wouldn't it be true that any end of the war that doesn't instate a puppet of the US or China in the Kremlin is a chance for Russia to rearm and reinvade (even other ex-soviet states)?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 10, 2024 at 7:34 am
(November 10, 2024 at 7:26 am)pocaracas Wrote: (November 9, 2024 at 4:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yes, a putin propagandist would do that, by insisting that the conflict be frozen so that russia can rearm, and reinvade.
Wouldn't it be true that any end of the war that doesn't instate a puppet of the US or China in the Kremlin is a chance for Russia to rearm and reinvade (even other ex-soviet states)? Nah the best ending is one were we thrash Russia so hard Putin loses all credibility and Russian people turn on him
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 10, 2024 at 12:42 pm
(November 10, 2024 at 7:26 am)pocaracas Wrote: (November 9, 2024 at 4:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Yes, a putin propagandist would do that, by insisting that the conflict be frozen so that russia can rearm, and reinvade.
Wouldn't it be true that any end of the war that doesn't instate a puppet of the US or China in the Kremlin is a chance for Russia to rearm and reinvade (even other ex-soviet states)?
Sure, they could do that even if Putin is driven out of office. That will be the case no matter what. But after this, I think the American proverb "once bitten, twice shy" is going to be the case.
Putin doesn't realize it, but he's already Xi's puppet.
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