Posts: 66326
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
160
RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
January 31, 2022 at 10:02 am
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2022 at 10:03 am by The Grand Nudger.)
If you don't think that your characterization of gods as mythical is knowledge, then you are an agnostic. You think they're mythological, but you don't know they're mythological.
This stuff is pretty simple. No need to tie your scrotum into a knot.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 10284
Threads: 31
Joined: April 3, 2015
Reputation:
64
RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
January 31, 2022 at 3:35 pm
(January 29, 2022 at 4:06 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: (January 27, 2022 at 2:24 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Although they are related questions, knowing that something exists is different from knowing what that something is. IMHO a minimal theory of an intelligible reality includes a phenomenal aspect, a nomenal one, and a relationship between them.
What does "nomenal" mean?
Did you typo there? Did you mean to say "nominal"?
And if so, what do you mean by "nominal" (or "nomenal" or whatever you meant to type)?
I think he meant "noumenal"... I had to look that one up myself; as in 'a thing in itself'....as in what exists beyond our senses. Regardless of the context in this thread, it seemed a pretty good/apt description useful for the other thread about consciousness, inasmuch as trying to define what it is and what it is not. Not wanting to go off topic here in this thread though, so just saying.
Posts: 5813
Threads: 86
Joined: November 19, 2017
Reputation:
59
RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
February 1, 2022 at 8:03 pm
(January 31, 2022 at 3:35 pm)emjay Wrote: (January 29, 2022 at 4:06 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: What does "nomenal" mean?
Did you typo there? Did you mean to say "nominal"?
And if so, what do you mean by "nominal" (or "nomenal" or whatever you meant to type)?
I think he meant "noumenal"... I had to look that one up myself; as in 'a thing in itself'....as in what exists beyond our senses. Regardless of the context in this thread, it seemed a pretty good/apt description useful for the other thread about consciousness, inasmuch as trying to define what it is and what it is not. Not wanting to go off topic here in this thread though, so just saying.
Ah! Like Kant's "noumenal self" that explains free will. That's gotta be it.
Posts: 10284
Threads: 31
Joined: April 3, 2015
Reputation:
64
RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
February 1, 2022 at 9:11 pm
(February 1, 2022 at 8:03 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: (January 31, 2022 at 3:35 pm)emjay Wrote: I think he meant "noumenal"... I had to look that one up myself; as in 'a thing in itself'....as in what exists beyond our senses. Regardless of the context in this thread, it seemed a pretty good/apt description useful for the other thread about consciousness, inasmuch as trying to define what it is and what it is not. Not wanting to go off topic here in this thread though, so just saying.
Ah! Like Kant's "noumenal self" that explains free will. That's gotta be it.
I think that means a lot more to you than it does to me, but glad it helped 
Posts: 5813
Threads: 86
Joined: November 19, 2017
Reputation:
59
RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
February 1, 2022 at 9:15 pm
(February 1, 2022 at 9:11 pm)emjay Wrote: (February 1, 2022 at 8:03 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Ah! Like Kant's "noumenal self" that explains free will. That's gotta be it.
I think that means a lot more to you than it does to me, but glad it helped
I love you, man.
Posts: 10284
Threads: 31
Joined: April 3, 2015
Reputation:
64
RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
February 1, 2022 at 9:23 pm
(February 1, 2022 at 9:15 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: (February 1, 2022 at 9:11 pm)emjay Wrote: I think that means a lot more to you than it does to me, but glad it helped
I love you, man.
Er... thanks? I think you're great too, man.
|
