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RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 10, 2022 at 9:57 pm
(February 10, 2022 at 6:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 10, 2022 at 6:43 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: So let's see -
Quote: For further clarification, what I usually indict is gun culture. Unquote.
Whatever THAT is.
Clear as mud.
Thanks...
Well, the topic seems to be gun violence and how to address it. In societies with high rates of gun violence, the chief cause is the behaviours and attitudes of the people in that society towards guns. I indict a gun culture that leads to violence.
I don’t think I can make it any plainer that that.
Boru
In the US, one aspect of our gun culture that probably does the most damage - a thing that's changed about us gun culture just in living memory - is that a fairly large portion of gun purchasers and owners will tell you they bought a firearm...for self defense.
It's a thing we think is for shooting people. This, predictably, leads to people being shot.
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RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 10, 2022 at 10:59 pm
(February 10, 2022 at 6:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 10, 2022 at 6:43 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: So let's see -
Quote: For further clarification, what I usually indict is gun culture. Unquote.
Whatever THAT is.
Clear as mud.
Thanks...
Well, the topic seems to be gun violence and how to address it. In societies with high rates of gun violence, the chief cause is the behaviours and attitudes of the people in that society towards guns. I indict a gun culture that leads to violence.
I don’t think I can make it any plainer that that.
Boru Are you pretending that the whole of the US is unified on the subject?
Your claim of " gun culture" is like saying " the color of the rainbow" - like there is only one....
Hate to clue you in - but opinions here differ. There is no " gun culture" - just a whole lot of people - some of which own guns.
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RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 11, 2022 at 12:20 am
If there is ever a Zombie Apocalypse, you'll be thankful for the 2nd Amendment, and, especially, all of that spare ammo.
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RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 11, 2022 at 5:29 am
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(February 10, 2022 at 10:59 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (February 10, 2022 at 6:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, the topic seems to be gun violence and how to address it. In societies with high rates of gun violence, the chief cause is the behaviours and attitudes of the people in that society towards guns. I indict a gun culture that leads to violence.
I don’t think I can make it any plainer that that.
Boru Are you pretending that the whole of the US is unified on the subject?
Your claim of " gun culture" is like saying " the color of the rainbow" - like there is only one....
Hate to clue you in - but opinions here differ. There is no " gun culture" - just a whole lot of people - some of which own guns.
I think you're being deliberately obtuse. No sub-culture is universal, and I never said otherwise. Gun culture refers to peoples' attitudes about guns.
American gun culture consists of:
-Gun ownership is a right.
-Guns keep me and my family safe.
-I need guns to protect my property.
-Guns prevent crime. And so on.
Does each and every American believe the same things about guns? Let's not be silly - not even all gun owners believe the same things. But these beliefs DO appear to be pervasive in American society. But simply because there are differences of opinion regarding guns doesn't mean there's no such thing as 'American gun culture'.
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RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 11, 2022 at 6:36 am
So what are you indicting?
Opinions? Of which there are camps diametrically opposed?
....
Actually - it appears that what you want is to stereotype. You want to say there is this " culture" of really bad people who are responsible for all the problems. As if somehow this undefined cabal of nefarious motherfuckers is in charge of everything.....
Sure..
That' s reasonable...
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RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 11, 2022 at 7:07 am
(February 11, 2022 at 6:36 am)onlinebiker Wrote: So what are you indicting?
Opinions? Of which there are camps diametrically opposed?
....
Actually - it appears that what you want is to stereotype. You want to say there is this " culture" of really bad people who are responsible for all the problems. As if somehow this undefined cabal of nefarious motherfuckers is in charge of everything.....
Sure..
That' s reasonable...
Yeah, that's what I meant. 
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RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 11, 2022 at 8:25 am
Words, what do they mean, right?
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RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 12, 2022 at 9:27 am
(February 9, 2022 at 6:11 am)Jehanne Wrote: So, true. I sleep with my mobile phone (it's 4 AM here; one of my cats got me up, because, he wanted to eat; I locked him in my basement with fresh food, water, etc.). Anyone who breaks into my home is here to steal worthless, useless items, not to kill me. It takes about 10 seconds to dial 911; the police station is 1.5 miles away.
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RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 12, 2022 at 12:35 pm
(February 12, 2022 at 9:27 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (February 9, 2022 at 6:11 am)Jehanne Wrote: So, true. I sleep with my mobile phone (it's 4 AM here; one of my cats got me up, because, he wanted to eat; I locked him in my basement with fresh food, water, etc.). Anyone who breaks into my home is here to steal worthless, useless items, not to kill me. It takes about 10 seconds to dial 911; the police station is 1.5 miles away.
Yeah, if anyone steals my identity, good luck opening any new accounts in my name.
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RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 13, 2022 at 12:18 pm
(February 10, 2022 at 11:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Trouble is, gun ownership is protected as a right by the 2nd, 5th, and 9th amendments to the constitution.
Incorrect: It's protected by activist reich-wing judges deliberately misinterpreting what those three amendments actually said.
If you need to go through a series of tests to show that you're physically, mentally and psychologically capable of driving a car before being let behind the wheel, I cannot see how the same can't apply to a tool designed explicitly to kill other people. Countries that don't apply this standards are frankly not civilised.
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