Is Allegorical Religion better than Fundamentalism?

[The Grand Nudger]

As far as ayahuasca, and whether people in the future, who are not ignorant, might still consider it mystical...  No more or less so than it's seen to be today by people who already know full well that it's a mind altering chemical substance.  I'd imagine.

[RBP3280]

I haven't fully digested your prior post, but I will say that I am inclined to define the soul as that part of human nature which is not understood (the poorly illuminated corners of being human, like consciousness, meaning, monsters, and so on).  That being said, these things remain fertile ground because we have no bottom-up explanation for them.  You're basically confirming my point that religion is about the extra-mundane.  Extra-mundane doesn't mean unfamiliar.  We are all familiar with plenty of phenomenon that defies mundane explanation.  Put it into a different perspective.  Suppose in the 26th century we will have mapped out the brain and what is actually happening when a Zen monk experiences satori and it's readily demonstrated that there is nothing mystical about it.  Will it still be religious?  Or take ayahuasca.  If we learn that there are mundane reasons why people feel that everything is one under its influence, will the experience still be considered mystical, except by ignorant people?

Electricity used to be believed by many to be magical until Ben Franklin pushed it into the arena of natural phenomenon.

Obviously none of you have evaluated the scientific information that is available and choose to dismiss it as BS. How many of you enlightened folks are medical professionals? 
Anyone who has been in the medical field for a number of years has seen things such as this that just can't be explained away. However they are not foolish enough to just dismiss it as BS if they don't have first hand knowledge. If they claim they haven't; well they aren't paying attention to reality. I was hoping to find open minded discussion but just received BS. Good day to all of you.

[The Grand Nudger]

Would our boy George be an example of whatever you're talking about when you question whether anyone has evaluated the scientific information? I can save you alot of trouble, if so.

It's still an open question why you think ndes are an issue for atheists, btw.

[Fake Messiah]

Obviously none of you have evaluated the scientific information that is available and choose to dismiss it as BS. How many of you enlightened folks are medical professionals? 
Anyone who has been in the medical field for a number of years has seen things such as this that just can't be explained away. However they are not foolish enough to just dismiss it as BS if they don't have first hand knowledge. If they claim they haven't; well they aren't paying attention to reality. I was hoping to find open minded discussion but just received BS. Good day to all of you.

Dude, you are just whining because you have been duped by those NDE stories. And you ignoring one of the most common facts about brain death by using logical fallacies ("you don't have open mind") is just making you look stupid.

[The Grand Nudger]

I doubt that the NDE stories had anything at all to do with whatever our new friend believes with respect to gods. Duped or not. Ghosts aren't gods. That was probably an "and also", not a "because of".

There's nothing stopping an atheist from believing in ghosts, and there's nothing stopping a theist from rejecting belief in ghosts.

[Angrboda]

[RBP3280]

I doubt that the NDE stories had anything at all to do with whatever our new friend believes with respect to gods.  Duped or not.  Ghosts aren't gods.  That was probably an "and also", not a "because of".

There's nothing stopping an atheist from believing in ghosts, and there's nothing stopping a theist from rejecting belief in ghosts.

Truth is most of you don't want to look at it subjectively. Proves to me you may be afraid of the truth. I'm not saying I have any absolutes.

[arewethereyet]

I doubt that the NDE stories had anything at all to do with whatever our new friend believes with respect to gods.  Duped or not.  Ghosts aren't gods.  That was probably an "and also", not a "because of".

There's nothing stopping an atheist from believing in ghosts, and there's nothing stopping a theist from rejecting belief in ghosts.

Truth is most of you don't want to look at it subjectively. Proves to me you may be afraid of the truth. I'm not saying I have any absolutes.

Dude, I had a heart attack in the back of an ambulance...no NDE visions.  Are they only handed out to a select few?

[Jehanne]

Truth is most of you don't want to look at it subjectively. Proves to me you may be afraid of the truth. I'm not saying I have any absolutes.

Dude, I had a heart attack in the back of an ambulance...no NDE visions.  Are they only handed out to a select few?

Am so very happy that you are here!!

😀

[The Grand Nudger]

I doubt that the NDE stories had anything at all to do with whatever our new friend believes with respect to gods.  Duped or not.  Ghosts aren't gods.  That was probably an "and also", not a "because of".

There's nothing stopping an atheist from believing in ghosts, and there's nothing stopping a theist from rejecting belief in ghosts.

Truth is most of you don't want to look at it subjectively. Proves to me you may be afraid of the truth. I'm not saying I have any absolutes.

I assume you mean objectively?  IDK, I don't think the problem here is that I don't want to look at things objectively..rather, that when I do look at them objectively, I simply don't reach the same conclusion you have.  

What is there supposed to be in any of this for me or anyone else to be afraid of, anyway?

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Dude, I had a heart attack in the back of an ambulance...no NDE visions.  Are they only handed out to a select few?

They never issued me my nde when I actually was near death.. either.  Didn't even dream.  Talk about getting ripped off. Some people go in for routine surgery and the entire cosmos opens up to them including all of the mysteries of the divine.