THE Gun Thread

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Nope, they wouldn’t even have to crack the school safe. Try again.

In any event, I’m not sure storing AR-15s on school grounds would do much good. The Uvalde cops had access to AR-15s and 21 people died.

Boru

Quit your stupid guessing game.

You wouldn' t play mine.

I refuse to.play yours.

Tell us o' genius - how is the evil teen going to break into a hardened gunsafe? The store I worked at sold thousands of those safes -(we even delivered 500.kilo safes)  and we NEVER had a customer tell us their locked safe had been forced open.....

But I did play your guessing game, I just pointed out that your split lyric thing didn’t prevent googling the answer.

Again, a shooter wouldn’t need to break into a school’s gun safe - all he’d have to do is get to where it is. Then, he could either access the contents or keep the cops from utilizing those contents. Think really hard. You can do this!

Boru

[Rev. Rye]

Would it make you feel any better if he switched up his terminology once in a while? Words like Lunatic, Nut(ter), Sociopath, head case, nutcase? At any rate, it's very hard for someone to see you claiming parents have the right to force their kids to breathe poison gas and think "oh, that guy's just normal."

[The Grand Nudger]

Still unclear as to whether safes are cool for school or double plus ungood health hazards to first responders.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Still unclear as to whether safes are cool for school or double plus ungood health hazards to first responders.

Definitely cool as long as they stay unused. Bad for first responders otherwise.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

Quit your stupid guessing game.

You wouldn' t play mine.

I refuse to.play yours.

Tell us o' genius - how is the evil teen going to break into a hardened gunsafe? The store I worked at sold thousands of those safes -(we even delivered 500.kilo safes)  and we NEVER had a customer tell us their locked safe had been forced open.....

But I did play your guessing game, I just pointed out that your split lyric thing didn’t prevent googling the answer.

Again, a shooter wouldn’t need to break into a school’s gun safe - all he’d have to do is get to where it is. Then, he could either access the contents or keep the cops from utilizing those contents. Think really hard. You can do this!

Boru

If the monster is camped out waiting for someone to retrieve a locked up weapon - he' s not shooting at anyone.

You' d rather he go find children to shoot??

In every scenario you people cook up - a whacked out teenager is omnipotent and no adult can stop them even if armed with seni- auto rifles.....

It really looks like you don' t want any solution....

[The Grand Nudger]

Is that every scenario other people cook up, or a reflection of your own nutty objections?

Can no law stop these not-omnipotent teenagers? Can safes stop them, even if a law saying put your guns in safes can't? Are safes kosher or double plus ungood for first responders? I think that gun control advocates would be tickled pink to find that they had broad bipartisan support, even from loons like you, for making safe storage laws federal.

[Rev. Rye]

But I did play your guessing game, I just pointed out that your split lyric thing didn’t prevent googling the answer.

Again, a shooter wouldn’t need to break into a school’s gun safe - all he’d have to do is get to where it is. Then, he could either access the contents or keep the cops from utilizing those contents. Think really hard. You can do this!

Boru

If the monster is camped out waiting for someone to retrieve a locked up weapon - he' s not shooting at anyone.

You' d rather he go find children to shoot??

In every scenario you people cook up - a whacked out teenager is omnipotent and no adult can stop them even if armed with seni- auto rifles.....

It really looks like you don' t want any solution....

And we’re assuming he’d be camped out waiting for someone else to get the AR-15 out of its safe why, exactly? Sounds like that’s just more incentive to get his carnage out of the way as quickly as possible. 

And I think Boru does have a solution: keep guns out of the hands of those who are likely to commit harm to others. If it were harder for a potential school shooter to get a hold of a weapon, we’d have a hell of a lot fewer mass murders. Case in point: the vast majority of other developed nations on the planet have stricter gun laws than the US, and if a mass shooting happens, it happens once every couple years. 

The UK has gun laws strict enough that even the cops often don’t carry guns. How many mass shootings (4+ dead) do you think have happened since I was born in December 1989? Four. How long has it been since America had 4 mass shootings with 4+ people dead? 11 days.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

But I did play your guessing game, I just pointed out that your split lyric thing didn’t prevent googling the answer.

Again, a shooter wouldn’t need to break into a school’s gun safe - all he’d have to do is get to where it is. Then, he could either access the contents or keep the cops from utilizing those contents. Think really hard. You can do this!

Boru

If the monster is camped out waiting for someone to retrieve a locked up weapon - he' s not shooting at anyone.

You' d rather he go find children to shoot??

In every scenario you people cook up - a whacked out teenager is omnipotent and no adult can stop them even if armed with seni- auto rifles.....

It really looks like you don' t want any solution....

Well, adults with guns can CLEARLY stop teens with guns - we know because it happens (of course, it tends to happen only after the body count is unconscionably high).

Since you’re clearly done guessing, consider this:

Jimmy goes to the school armed with just a pistol. He kills one person and takes a roomful of kids hostages (in the room where the gun safe is). He demands that the gun safe be opened or he’ll kill one child every five minutes.

I can only see two ways this plays out:

1. Someone at the school, hoping against hope to save the lives of the hostages, opens the safe. Jimmy now has an AR-15 along with extra magazines and a good supply of ammo. Carnage ensues.

2. No one accedes to Jimmy’s demand and he makes good on his threat to start killing children. The cops arrive after Jimmy has killed several kids and shoot and kill Jimmy (who is now out of ammo).

Now, explain to me how an AR-15 locked in a safe was any help to the police.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

If you don't acknowledge the totemic power of guns then no nut explanation for why we should put them here or there will ever make sense to you Boru.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

If you don't acknowledge the totemic power of guns then no nut explanation for why we should put them here or there will ever make sense to you Boru.

Guilty.

Boru