THE Gun Thread

[Fake Messiah]

So, according to CNN, SEVEN police officers were inside the school but did not confront the shooter. They waited "about an hour" for a Border Patrol tactical team to arrive. A full hour. Seven armed officers to one 18 year-old.

The good guys with the guns?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/26/us/uvalde...index.html

But wait there's more. 7 inside and, are you sitting down? 150 outside. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...-door.html

150 officers who didn't stop the slaughtering of toddlers because they..... were afraid of being shot.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/texas-police...been-shot/

[onlinebiker]

It' s rare I agree with GN - but he is right....

You want to make freedom beyond the means of the poor.......

So, the poor can afford guns, ammo, gun accessories, carry permits - but $14 a month for liability insurance (from the NRA, no less) is a deal breaker?

Boru

Once again - you have NO idea what you are taking about.

Insurance is only cheap - when it it not legally required.


As soon as it is mandated - the prices soar.

Ask anyone from Washington state.

My BIL had a truck for his business. Liability insurance went from a couple hundred - to over $2000 a year when it became manditory. No change in his status. It just wasn't optional any more.

Won' t matter anyway.


You will not get it.

SCOTUS will bury the idea.

Chop it' s head off and bury it at low tide at midnite...

[The Grand Nudger]

Even worse FM. The border control team that eventually took action. Apparently, they waited to get a key for the door.

[onlinebiker]

It' s rare I agree with GN - but he is right....

You want to make freedom beyond the means of the poor.......

So, the poor can afford guns, ammo, gun accessories, carry permits - but $14 a month for liability insurance (from the NRA, no less) is a deal breaker?

Boru

And - I can' t believe I missed this at first -

NO Insurance company will provide liability coverage for INTENTIONAL HARM. They also don' t cover suicides.

So - the only coverage would be for negligence - which are a small minority of gun deaths - the vast majority being suicide 


So no payday for all the murder victims..

[Rev. Rye]

Just for the record, are we sure this would only cover fatal injuries? Because even as they make up a small minority of gun deaths, they make up a far larger minority of nonfatal gun injuries. 27,000 per year. And that’s injuries bad enough to merit an ER visit.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Sorry pal - I don' t keep score cards of people' s political affiliation...  If you sound anti - I just figure you are.

That sounds like a you problem and not a me problem, buddy. I've already made plain in posts you've replied to that I'm not anti-2A, I just understand that every right carries responsibilities.

If you need further clarification, do this conversation a favor and ask before making any more fatuous assumptions. That is, if you actually want a conversation.

[Thumpalumpacus]

He’ll correct me if I’m wrong, but I really don’t think that’s what Thump was saying at all. It struck me as more of an observation that lobbying and donations by gun rights groups (not gun owners) are creating a resistance to gun legislation reform in Congress.

Right, that was my point. Money talks.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So, the poor can afford guns, ammo, gun accessories, carry permits - but $14 a month for liability insurance (from the NRA, no less) is a deal breaker?

Boru

And - I can' t believe I missed this at first -

NO Insurance company will provide liability coverage for INTENTIONAL HARM. They also don' t cover suicides.

So - the only coverage would be for negligence - which are a small minority of gun deaths - the vast majority being suicide 


So no payday for all the murder victims..

It's not primarily about intentional harm. If you look at the various policies in the link I quoted, the insurance is intended to benefit  the policy holder, and (in the case of the NRA policies), is geared chiefly towards self-defense shootings. If you get sued for shooting an intruder, a gun liability policy would - among other things - relieve you of the nightmare of having yourself represented by a public defender.

You'd think gun owners would be all over this.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

You’d think so, but as I keep explaining, for a great many reasons….things all the way up to houses regularly go uninsured in the states.

I’ve never actually checked to see if my liability covers a shooting…almost certainly does in that it’s a general injury and legal damages policy.

I carry it because visitors are part of what I do. Sure as shit hope I never have to pop somebody who wanted to know what a vertical pick your own was all about.