The PR Wing Of The GOP

[The Architect Of Fate]

We're supposed to be a model for the world...even canadia.....a world in which a democracy like ours is very much an abnormality..when it comes to the transition of power.  Anything so much as a hiccup is devastating to the spread of democratic governance.  To the faith of people who are not at all short of competing views as the the proper governance of a nation.

Yup partisan mobs disrupting election is supposed to happen in banana republics not the United States of America.

[Irreligious Atheist]

There are levels to this shit though. I need to buy a clue because I'm not willing to say that some clowns breaking into a building and putting their feet up on desks and writing letters to Nancy Pelosi is not quite comparable to thousands of people dying? If you have nightmares of shirtless dudes in viking helmets coming for all of your rights like the Nazis did, then more power to you, but I just don't see it how you see it.

Yes, you do because you fail to realize that a partisan mob felt emboldened enough to storm the capital building during the verification and tried to intimidate the house into changing the result of a federal election. Fascism didn't start with the death camps and everyone dismissed the Nazis as some clowns. No, you don't see it at all despite it being right in front of you.

I don't fail to realize that a partisan mob felt emboldened enough to storm the capitol building during the verification and tried to intimidate the house into changing the result of a federal election. It's been a crazy past few years. Rioting and or people wilding out on the streets and causing chaos was pretty much the norm for months on end. We saw it on the news weekly. A police station burned down. People attempting to set fire to courthouses. ICE detention centers being firebombed. So called autonomous zones like Chaz. Lockdowns, police misconduct, and Donald J caused the nation, and the world really, to go a bit wild. I've disavowed what the Trump nuts did at the Capitol, and I don't need to compare it to World War II to prove to anyone that I think January 6 was bad. It was bad, but there are ten thousand levels of bad, so if you just want to get a political zinger on the Repubs, feel free to keep comparing it to 9/11 and WWII.

As far as denying the results of elections, I don't like it, but I think censoring people online for denying the results of an election is not the answer. When VP Harris talked about the spread of misinformation during the anniversary of Jan 6, what she's saying is that only rubber stamped, authoritative misinformation coming from so called authoritative news outlets should be allowed. It's basically rules for thee, not for me. They want their misinformation to be the misinformation that has a monopoly, which is why I completely reject the narrative that "something needs to be done about the people spreading misinformation". Like Mika Brzezinski let slip out on MSNBC, it is the mainstream media's job to control exactly what people think. Let all the misinformation muck about, I say, and let it all stand.



Hillary Clinton told Biden to not concede under any circumstances. Of course she was not alone in that opinion. Many Democrat voters questioned Trump's election from the start, and did the whole "not my President" thing, and said Putin interfered so the results should be thrown out and there should be a do-over. I disavowed that. I disavow the questioning of Biden as the official POTUS. Yeah, America's been through some shit the past few years, but you've survived it. Of course it's a problem that people are questioning election results and you never want to see that, but I'm sorry if I'm not going to join you in thinking that the sky is falling and the Nazi party is at our doorstep, waiting in the wings for the right time to take its' rightful place in power. Q Anon doesn't particularly scare me.

Edit- Here's this old story I just remembered too. Celebrities call on the electoral college to vote against Donald Trump, even though he was rightly elected.
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/celebrit...nald-trump

[arewethereyet]

Why don't you worry about Canada for a while.

Your impression of things going on in the US are heavily based on conspiracy theories.

We have plenty of those nuts here.

[The Grand Nudger]

-and there it is. Like a common redneck. This canadian sees antifa dancing in his head. Its all...a massive false flag.

Nevermind that..you know, he's canadian....and his own country has it's own political dynamics. This has been yet another demonstration of the primacy of US politics in the western ao..and that...the reason it matters whether we have a dictator.... or not.

I, personally..wish antifa was dancing in the streets, like so many nuts that this nut listens to imagines. What a world. Alas, mere reality does not comply to my wishes. I believe the term for it is "useful idiot". He wants to bullshit us about the government censoring people.....but the only faction of the government censoring anybody..is the one he sympathizes with.

He can go fuck himself, all the way back to canadia.

[Irreligious Atheist]

Why don't you worry about Canada for a while.

Your impression of things going on in the US are heavily based on conspiracy theories.

We have plenty of those nuts here.

What happens in America impacts Canuckistan. Proud Boys in Canada were labeled terrorists because of what a few American Proud Boys did at the Capitol. Uvalde happened, and then Canada immediately clamped down on gun rights even further. Canada: Never let an American tragedy go to waste and stop you from a power grab, even if the event didn't happen in Canada.

[Irreligious Atheist]

-and there it is.  Like a common redneck.  This canadian sees antifa dancing in his head.  Its all...a massive false flag.

Nevermind that..you know, he's canadian....and his own country has it's own political dynamics.  This has been yet another demonstration of the primacy of US politics in the western ao..and that...the reason it matters whether we have a dictator.... or not.

I, personally..wish antifa was dancing in the streets, like so many nuts that this nut listens to imagines.  What a world.  Alas, mere reality does not comply to my wishes.  I believe the term for it is "useful idiot".  He wants to bullshit us about the government censoring people.....but the only faction of the government censoring anybody..is the one he sympathizes with.

He can go fuck himself, all the way back to canadia.

I realize that my post you responded to can easily sound like whataboutism, and I regret that and it is fair to call me out for that, but I was just trying to put the past several years into context. Things have been crazy all around. I didn't mean to imply that the sky is falling and that Antifa will be the end of the Republic or anything like that. And the rejecting of election results was already happening when Trump won and the media pushed the unfair election claim for years on end, although of course it's worse to actually invade the Capitol, but again, it's not clear that there is going to be long-term damage to the Republic because some people broke into a building, and Trump's approval rating dropped big time after the events of January 6th, so hopefully whoever comes after Trump will realize that what Trump did by riling up his people on that day was moronic and he just shot himself in the foot, and hopefully there won't be a repeat of this.

[onlinebiker]

Why don't you worry about Canada for a while.

Your impression of things going on in the US are heavily based on conspiracy theories.

We have plenty of those nuts here.

What happens in America impacts Canuckistan. Proud Boys in Canada were labeled terrorists because of what a few American Proud Boys did at the Capitol. Uvalde happened, and then Canada immediately clamped down on gun rights even further. Canada: Never let an American tragedy go to waste and stop you from a power grab, even if the event didn't happen in Canada.

Yup..

Can' t let dead children go to waste - gotta turn those suckers into votes!

[The Architect Of Fate]

I don't fail to realize that a partisan mob felt emboldened enough to storm the capitol building during the verification and tried to intimidate the house into changing the result of a federal election. It's been a crazy past few years. Rioting and or people wilding out on the streets and causing chaos was pretty much the norm for months on end. We saw it on the news weekly. A police station burned down. People attempting to set fire to courthouses. ICE detention centers being firebombed. So called autonomous zones like Chaz. Lockdowns, police misconduct, and Donald J caused the nation, and the world really, to go a bit wild. I've disavowed what the Trump nuts did at the Capitol, and I don't need to compare it to World War II to prove to anyone that I think January 6 was bad. It was bad, but there are ten thousand levels of bad, so if you just want to get a political zinger on the Repubs, feel free to keep comparing it to 9/11 and WWII.

Congrats on a long rambly speech that addresses nothing I said. As none of the actions, you listed even come close to trying to storm the capital building to overturn an election. This nothing political parties and the action of the insurrectionists was every bit as bad was every bit as insidious as the 9/11 highjackers or the imperial Japanese Just because tons of people didn't die and their fireworks does not change that fact.

As far as denying the results of elections, I don't like it, but I think censoring people online for denying the results of an election is not the answer. When VP Harris talked about the spread of misinformation during the anniversary of Jan 6, what she's saying is that only rubber stamped, authoritative misinformation coming from so called authoritative news outlets should be allowed. It's basically rules for thee, not for me. They want their misinformation to be the misinformation that has a monopoly, which is why I completely reject the narrative that "something needs to be done about the people spreading misinformation". Like Mika Brzezinski let slip out on MSNBC, it is the mainstream media's job to control exactly what people think. Let all the misinformation muck about, I say, and let it all stand.

Congrats on a long rambly speech that addresses nothing I said. The election results were sound and anyone who doubts that is a nutcase and just because X spreads misinformation doesn't mean Y gets to stand uncorrected...

Hillary Clinton told Biden to not concede under any circumstances. Of course she was not alone in that opinion. Many Democrat voters questioned Trump's election from the start, and did the whole "not my President" thing, and said Putin interfered so the results should be thrown out and there should be a do-over. I disavowed that. I disavow the questioning of Biden as the official POTUS. Yeah, America's been through some shit the past few years, but you've survived it. Of course it's a problem that people are questioning election results and you never want to see that, but I'm sorry if I'm not going to join you in thinking that the sky is falling and the Nazi party is at our doorstep, waiting in the wings for the right time to take its' rightful place in power. Q Anon doesn't particularly scare me.

Edit- Here's this old story I just remembered too. Celebrities call on the electoral college to vote against Donald Trump, even though he was rightly elected.

And did the Democrats storm the capital building on Jan 6 and tried to override the results of a fair and free election? I don't think so. So this whataboutism fails, You are free to join the people who called the Nazi's a joke. Just pray history doesn't repeat itself and your apathy doesn't come back to bite you.

[onlinebiker]

And yet more of you " not following me".....

[The Architect Of Fate]

What happens in America impacts Canuckistan. Proud Boys in Canada were labeled terrorists because of what a few American Proud Boys did at the Capitol. Uvalde happened, and then Canada immediately clamped down on gun rights even further. Canada: Never let an American tragedy go to waste and stop you from a power grab, even if the event didn't happen in Canada.

Yes because we can't crack down on hate groups or weapons ....


It's all just an evil power grab.......