2024 US Presidential Election

[Thumpalumpacus]

Likewise, do you believe that the multi-billion dollar industry heavily tied not just to some of the most powerful corporations in the world but also some of the largest criminal organizations and deeply entwined with (at least) one of the world's largest governments might have incentive to mischaracterize and misrepresent the truth in an attempt to protect the status quo within the government?

I'm not big on conspiracies, so no, I don't think some unnamed government colluded with some unnamed companies to persecute poor little Donnie-boy.

Y'know, for allegedly being so tough, y'all sure are sensitive things, aren't you? "Everyone's out to get us!"

Case in point - the child crying with his head on the concrete, alone in the cage, cover photo for months... taken in 2014, Obama administration.

Ah, so it was just a sample size fallacy remark. Got it.

You really should heed your own words.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Being so obsessive with what this specific Hollywood actor said, we might ask TWM if this has anything to do with him holding any  bigotries against gay people. Place your bets.

An excellent point, ad I won't bet against you.

[Rev. Rye]

Yes, I do. Definitionally, those 'temporary shelter and processing camps' under Obama were ABSOLUTELY concentration camps.

Next stupid question, please.

Boru

This guy persists under the delusion that we have no issue with Obama's  immigration policies

Frankly, the biggest difference between immigration issues under Obama and Trump is that Trump’s preferred Method of reform essentially  boils down to ethnic cleansing.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Likewise, do you believe that the multi-billion dollar industry heavily tied not just to some of the most powerful corporations in the world but also some of the largest criminal organizations and deeply entwined with (at least) one of the world's largest governments might have incentive to mischaracterize and misrepresent the truth in an attempt to protect the status quo within the government?

I'm not big on conspiracies, so no, I don't think some unnamed government colluded with some unnamed companies to persecute poor little Donnie-boy.

Y'know, for allegedly being so tough, y'all sure are sensitive things, aren't you? "Everyone's out to get us!"

Case in point - the child crying with his head on the concrete, alone in the cage, cover photo for months... taken in 2014, Obama administration.

Ah, so it was just a sample size fallacy remark. Got it.

You really should heed your own words.

Ah, my gentle snowflakes…

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

Halfway there.

[TheWhiteMarten]

I'm not big on conspiracies, so no, I don't think some unnamed government colluded with some unnamed companies to persecute poor little Donnie-boy.

You really need it spelt out for you that Hollywood - a Californian institution that brings billions of dollars into the state - is tied to the Californian government and might have incentive to promote the policies and agendas of that government?

Relax with the Trump Derangement Syndrome; Wasn't talking about Donald Trump but rather broader immigration policies that foreign countries have used to exploit our legal system, and while Donald Trump has become the face of it because it's easier to build a boogieman... immigration has been a hot-button topic *long* before he was on the scene and I think we both damn well know that.

[TheWhiteMarten]

Being so obsessive with what this specific Hollywood actor said, we might ask TWM if this has anything to do with him holding any  bigotries against gay people. Place your bets.

An excellent point, ad I won't bet against you.

Considering I'm not the one bringing him up simply because of the color of his skin, once again I ask you to relax with the accusations of bigotry while exhibiting them yourself.

[The Grand Nudger]

That Government™ that's the fifth largest economy on earth, you mean? Yeah, down with that, because you're so fucking american.


Marten. You're a traitor. If your race wasn't a problem to your compatriots... your politics would be to everyone else. There's no moral high ground available...but when they come for you, I won't say shit.

[TheWhiteMarten]

That government that's the fifth largest economy on earth, you mean?  

Yes, I believe when I said "the Californian government" I meant the Californian government.

[Silver]

California must be doing something right if it's got them all hot and bothered.