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RE: I think Christianity is true, even if Islam where to rule the world
August 8, 2024 at 2:13 pm
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(August 8, 2024 at 2:08 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: (August 8, 2024 at 2:07 pm)Riddar90 Wrote: [...] Being united under something that lasts for eternity is way more comforting and wholesome. [...]
How can you be convinced by the truth of something merely comforting?
Like lots of stuff in life. People find comfort in friendship, baking food, parties etc.
But in the end humans are tribal. With religion it puts a more ease on the mind, one can feel more relaxed in that sense. Its one of the places where people feel they belong together in a sense.
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RE: I think Christianity is true, even if Islam where to rule the world
August 8, 2024 at 2:15 pm
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(August 8, 2024 at 2:13 pm)Riddar90 Wrote: (August 8, 2024 at 2:08 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: How can you be convinced by the truth of something merely comforting?
Like lots of stuff in life. People find comfort in friendship, baking food, parties etc.
But in the end humans are tribal. With religion it puts a more ease on the mind, one can feel more relaxed in that sense. Its one of the places where people feel they belong together in a sense.
I understand why you might want to profess belief in something comforting. But actual belief? You're convinced for rational reasons. Maybe not actually rational but at least rational to you. Whereas you appear to be admitting an irrationality of belief. Which makes me question the genuineness of your belief.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.
Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.
Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;
What is good is easy to get,
What is terrible is easy to endure
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RE: I think Christianity is true, even if Islam where to rule the world
August 8, 2024 at 2:15 pm
If your religion puts ease on your mind, your religion may be shit. You may just be talking about the comfort of superstition here, as before...but...religions, genuinely held, are an aspirational struggle. An attempt to remake ourselves and the world. If that puts you at ease you may be a cretin, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I think Christianity is true, even if Islam where to rule the world
August 8, 2024 at 2:17 pm
(August 8, 2024 at 2:15 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If your religion puts ease on your mind, your religion may be shit. You may just be talking about the comfort of superstition here, as before...but...religions, genuinely held, are an aspirational struggle. An attempt to remake ourselves and the world. If that puts you at ease you may be a cretin, lol.
Let me ask you something. When it comes to politics. People are often very tribal. I for example am not biggest fan of Two Party Establishment and prefer Representative Multiparty System. Or there is the blame game of saying someone hates this and that, slurs insults. All the nasty things people say. When one is in that type of world. Then finding comfort in something that people can truly find unification under, to me that sounds like a good deal.
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RE: I think Christianity is true, even if Islam where to rule the world
August 8, 2024 at 2:18 pm
(August 8, 2024 at 2:00 pm)Riddar90 Wrote: I see Science and Religion as two different things. Religion is basically faith in a invisible imagined authority. Whereas science is to understand the natural world. How to build a car, how to build houses and such.
FTFY, god(s) are a product of the human mind, nothing more.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: I think Christianity is true, even if Islam where to rule the world
August 8, 2024 at 2:19 pm
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People can get that from opioids. We recently did, see how that worked out?
Anywho, there's no unification for me in your religion, if you even have one. Christianity is morally degenerate and divisive by design. The belief that a great sorting hat in the sky will spare those incompetents who seek to disabuse themselves of responsibility for their own bad behavior and annihilate all of those who would take ownership of the same.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I think Christianity is true, even if Islam where to rule the world
August 8, 2024 at 2:25 pm
(August 8, 2024 at 2:19 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: People can get that from opioids. We recently did, see how that worked out?
Anywho, there's no unification for me in your religion, if you even have one. Christianity is morally degenerate and divisive by design. The belief that a great sorting hat will spare those incompetents who seek to disabuse themselves of responsibility for their own bad behavior and annihilate all of those who would take ownership of the same.
There is a South Park parody called Go God Go. Which jokes on atheist warfare. But i am not saying if the world become Christian it becomes peaceful. I am merely saying it will put your mind at ease. That itself is pretty fine with me.
But i for example think it is delusional to say if you got rid of religion in USA then all problems would go away? I mean take AIPAC or lobbyist group. Or the fact that USA isnt all that much of a Democracy since its run by two party establishment.
But i am ranting. But alas religion shouldnt be in government in my view.
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RE: I think Christianity is true, even if Islam where to rule the world
August 8, 2024 at 2:25 pm
Well at least you're not a theocrat.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.
Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.
Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;
What is good is easy to get,
What is terrible is easy to endure
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RE: I think Christianity is true, even if Islam where to rule the world
August 8, 2024 at 2:26 pm
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(August 8, 2024 at 2:25 pm)Disagreeable Wrote: Well at least you're not a theocrat.
Christianity is in general a very conformist religion. Or atleast if one reads New Testament its what it began as.
But power has tendency to corrupt overall
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RE: I think Christianity is true, even if Islam where to rule the world
August 8, 2024 at 2:36 pm
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(August 8, 2024 at 2:19 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: People can get that from opioids. We recently did, see how that worked out?
Anywho, there's no unification for me in your religion, if you even have one. Christianity is morally degenerate and divisive by design. The belief that a great sorting hat in the sky will spare those incompetents who seek to disabuse themselves of responsibility for their own bad behavior and annihilate all of those who would take ownership of the same.
I am gonna quote Star Wars, where in Episode 6 i think "Obi Wan Kenobi talked about certain point of view". That is the struggle in a sense. But religion itself is black and white
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