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The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
The cheek of Trump and Vance demanding Zelenskyy be grateful for 
 
1. Rewarding his enemies  with the territory they stole. 

2. Extorting his country for resources without any security guarantees. 

3. Calling him a dictator and blaming him for the war. 

4. Denying Ukraine NATO membership status which would guarantee security.

5. Essentially bullying him into accepting a false peace on Russian terms, and essentially treating his country like a dependent child. 

6. The billions Biden, not Trump, gave him.

 Remind me what he is supposed to be grateful to Trump for?
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
Even if Britain never rejoins the EU, I hope even Brexiteers would be open to us joining some sort of European military alliance... cos we're going to need it.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(February 28, 2025 at 6:12 pm)emjay Wrote: Even if Britain never rejoins the EU, I hope even Brexiteers would be open to us joining some sort of European military alliance... cos we're going to need it.

Y'all are in NATO.

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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(February 28, 2025 at 6:17 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(February 28, 2025 at 6:12 pm)emjay Wrote: Even if Britain never rejoins the EU, I hope even Brexiteers would be open to us joining some sort of European military alliance... cos we're going to need it.

Y'all are in NATO.

Yes, but NATO is compromised.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(February 28, 2025 at 6:17 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(February 28, 2025 at 6:12 pm)emjay Wrote: Even if Britain never rejoins the EU, I hope even Brexiteers would be open to us joining some sort of European military alliance... cos we're going to need it.

Y'all are in NATO.

Yes, but I doubt it's much of a deterrant now.
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
Two NATO members have nukes enough to devastate Russia. No NATO member can veto another's going to the aid of third member. America can sit it out, but other NATO members have the capabilities to defend against a Russian military that has been denuded in Ukraine.

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(February 28, 2025 at 6:59 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Two NATO members have nukes enough to devastate Russia. No NATO member can veto another's going to the aid of third member. America can sit it out, but other NATO members have the capabilities to defend against a Russian military that has been denuded in Ukraine.

That's reassuring. Obviously I don't know enough about it so thanks for the education. So you don't think there's any need for a separate European defence force? I'm pretty sure the idea has been floated at times in the past.
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It has, and if there were ever a good time for it, a moment when it could be formed at parity or exceeding the capacity of it's hypothetical foe..that would be now. The us and russia are weak.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
(February 28, 2025 at 7:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It has, and if there were ever a good time for it, a moment when it could be formed at parity or exceeding the capacity of it's hypothetical foe..that would be now.  The us and russia are weak.

We can but hope. Feel free to migrate over here and fight with us Wink
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RE: The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
Oh I could never leave lady liberty alone with her abusers. Still, the silver lining here is that if we're witnessing the russification f the american government (and we are) then people have even less to worry about from americas forces than they think they do in our current weary state. We'll just find ourselves picking a fight with canadia and losing superweapons to retirees running jobsite construction equipment for our troubles.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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