This whole thread seems so retro. Nonetheless, in answer to the OP, the reason the bible is held true by most Christians can be summed up as "by definition". That wasn't so hard.
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Copenhagen School  Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher. (May 11, 2011 at 12:24 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 11, 2011 at 12:18 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: A bunch of lame claims of prophecy and biblical accuracy. "They shall look upon him whom they have pierced" does not necessarily describe a crucifixion. Sounds more like someone being stabbed. http://atheistforums.org/thread-20852.html thats a failed prophecy
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.  (October 10, 2013 at 2:29 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:(May 11, 2011 at 12:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: Prove your statements. How about actually reading the thread, like post #24?  (September 25, 2013 at 4:19 am)konroh Wrote:(May 11, 2011 at 12:18 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: A bunch of lame claims of prophecy and biblical accuracy. "They shall look upon him whom they have pierced" does not necessarily describe a crucifixion. Sounds more like someone being stabbed. Okay, I'll bite. Now what does any of this have to do with the OP. Why should a reasonable, clear thinking person think the bible is true. Are you one of those people whose faith is first and foremost in the bible? Or do you have a secret friend? If the answer is both I have a hypothetical question. If your secret friend and the bible contradicted, which would you favor?  (September 25, 2013 at 4:17 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I don't remember who I've seen use it regarding the word "generation," but I had a fundie friend in person tell me that Jesus turned water into grape juice because the word "wine" had two meanings, alcoholic liquid which we commonly know as wine, and grape juice. So for some reason only the grape juice translation was correct for the story of Jesus turning water into wine. Your friend should read the passages as they are written, they say Jesus turn the water into the finest of wines and that meant it had alcohol in it. The one giving the party said to Him, after the people become intoxicated we use a lesser quality wine, because they do not know the difference in the taste, or maybe they just didn't care what it taste like.  GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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(September 25, 2013 at 4:37 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. You should study the Hebrew a little more, the word translated as virgin or young woman, means exactly that a young woman old enough to marry yet sexually mature. So either translation works here, that's why it's been translated both ways. Other verses using this are Gen. 24:43; Exodus 2:8; Psalm 68:25; Proverbs 30:19; Song of Songs 1:3, 6:8;. Immanuel could not have been the name of Isaiah's new born son, his wife already had a child, thus she is not a virgin and Isaiah never had a son named Immanuel. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Still twisting your scrotum trying to salvage your bullshit, eh G-C.
http://www.viator.com/Beirut-attractions...4215-a6102 Quote:Ever since its founding in 2,750 BC, the Lebanese city of Tyre (Sour) has been a center of conquest, exploration and empire. Originally an island city with one of the finest harbors in the eastern Mediterranean, scholars argue that the first explorers to navigate the waters of the Mediterranean Sea departed from the modern day port of Tyre. Although heavily fortified and able to repel many previous attacks, the island of Tyre was finally conquered by Alexander the Great in 332 BC when his armies constructed a causeway to get within striking distance of the island. Due to thousands of years of sedimentation caused by the man-made causeway, the city of Tyre is now an isthmus which forms a rugged promontory jutting out into the sea. You're going to piss off the Tyre Tourism Department. They may put a fatwa out on your sorry ass!  (October 11, 2013 at 12:55 am)Godschild Wrote:(September 25, 2013 at 4:37 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. This Rabbi says no...either translation doesn't work, not when there is a specific word for 'virgin', which Izzy doesn't use for this instance- http://www.outreachjudaism.org/articles/...irgin.html
G-C thinks he's a better jew than that rabbi.
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