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June 30, 2011 at 10:07 am
(June 30, 2011 at 2:55 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Afghanistan is a useless, nearly resource-less place. The only purpose of invading is to feed the military-industrial complex, economically speaking.
Not so much.
Quote:'Trillion dollar' mineral deposits have been discovered in Afghanistan according to US officials. These deposits include vast quantities of iron, copper, and lithium (important to battery technologies). The iron and copper discoveries are so huge, they have the potential of transforming the war-torn nation which, according to the United Nations, has one of the lowest living standards in the world. Preliminary reports suggest that lithium deposits are comparable with the world's largest in Bolivia.
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June 30, 2011 at 10:16 am
Comforting to see that something may yet be gained by the whole endeavor.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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June 30, 2011 at 1:05 pm
(June 29, 2011 at 9:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Soldiers lives are very precious. It costs a fair amount of money to recruit, train, house, cloth, and feed them.
Unfortunately those lives are far more precious to the soldiers themselves and their families than they are to the command structure. As they say "old soldiers never die because young soldiers do all the fighting."
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RE: This fellow makes a lot of good points.
June 30, 2011 at 1:18 pm
(June 30, 2011 at 10:07 am)Jaysyn Wrote: Not so much.
Thanks, I hadn't known that. Still, if the purpose was to seize and utilize assets as the above, then the US is doing it exactly ass backwards. One does not destroy infrastructure if the goal is to slave the economy for production. The US has exactly done that and must rebuild entire sections of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Who benefits from the infrastructure being destroyed? Military contractors, and the few really ballsy civvies. The resource whores (energy giants, mining ops) benefit not one iota from losing infrastructure, and instead absolutely depend on it.
For the goal of seizing resources, we've done the worlds most lousiest job.
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June 30, 2011 at 1:22 pm
I'm forming the basis of a conspiracy theory. I would like to propose that the purpose was in fact not to seize said resources, but to prevent access to them. If these resources flooded the market battery technology would become an even cheaper alternative to fossil fuels.
::tinfoil hat::
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June 30, 2011 at 1:57 pm
(June 30, 2011 at 1:18 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Thanks, I hadn't known that.
We didn't either till we invaded.
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RE: This fellow makes a lot of good points.
June 30, 2011 at 3:10 pm
The Russians couldn't subdue the place and they were willing to be far more ruthless than we would ever be.
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RE: This fellow makes a lot of good points.
June 30, 2011 at 6:43 pm
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2011 at 6:46 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
Quote:And yes it's nonsense everybody knows why we are there besides the selfless reasons of spreading this infestation called the west, and it's because afghanistan is rich in minerals
Bollocks.
Wars are only fought for one or both of two reasons: To take something the other guy has or to stop him from taking something you have.This is not always obvious.
Look at an Atlas. Countries have been fighting over Afghanistan for centuries ;it is the gateway to the Middle East
PLUS,TODAY:
Quote:Afghanistan's significance from an energy standpoint stems from its geographical position as a potential transit route for oil and natural gas exports from Central Asia to the Arabian Sea. This potential includes the possible construction of oil and natural gas export pipelines through Afghanistan, which was under serious consideration in the mid-1990s. The idea has since been undermined by Afghanistan's instability. Since 1996, most of Afghanistan has been controlled by the Taliban movement, which the United States does not recognize as the government of Afghanistan.
http://www.institute-for-afghan-studies....ources.htm
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