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What is the size of your vocabulary?
#41
RE: What is the size of your vocabulary?
(July 17, 2011 at 7:18 pm)padraic Wrote: George W Bush allegedly has a measured IQ of 126. ( slightly higher than mine I think ) Thinking

That's crap, it's 110 tops, and that is being extremely generous.

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#42
RE: What is the size of your vocabulary?
Quote:George W Bush allegedly has a measured IQ of 126. ( slightly higher than mine I think ) Thinking


He probably had someone else take the test for him.....just like college!
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#43
RE: What is the size of your vocabulary?
(July 17, 2011 at 6:49 am)theVOID Wrote: Fun little test;

http://testyourvocab.com/

Your total vocabulary size is estimated to be:
25,200
words

Fun little test, that my privacy software went haywire over. However, it showed my total vocabulary is estimated to be thirty-four thousand words.

I wonder how they arrive at that figure?
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#44
RE: What is the size of your vocabulary?
(July 17, 2011 at 7:50 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote:
(July 17, 2011 at 7:18 pm)padraic Wrote: George W Bush allegedly has a measured IQ of 126. ( slightly higher than mine I think ) Thinking

That's crap, it's 110 tops, and that is being extremely generous.
'Crap'? An interesting objective assessment.Based on what evidence?

I Googled: "what is GW Bush's IQ?"


A couple of answers:

Quote:Bush's SAT score was 1206 (566 Verbal, 640 Math). See the upper-left
corner of his Yale transcript:
http://www.iuptown.com/YaleProtest/bushs...script.htm

This web page offers a theoretical conversion of pre-1974 SAT scores to IQ:
http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/Pre1974SAT.html

Based on that conversion chart, Bush's IQ would be about 129.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=292960

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Quote:The hoax

The hoax email showed Bill Clinton having the highest IQ (182) and George W. Bush the lowest (91). However, the numbers claimed in the email were fabricated, and the sociologists and institutions (e.g., the "Lovenstein Institute") quoted in the article do not exist (a "Lovenstein Institute" website displays the "report", but it was created after the report's release).[2] The techniques purportedly used to measure IQ of the presidents are not recognized means of measuring IQs. The hoax also contains other factual errors.[1] When the hoax was debunked, it appeared to be a personal attack on Bush due to its timing and to its listing Bush's IQ as exactly half that of Clinton's.


Quote:Legitimate Presidential IQ study

A 2006 study analyzing presidential IQs by Dean Keith Simonton of U.C. Davis appeared in the journal Political Psychology. Simonton's study analyzed the results of varied and often subjective historical material using the tools of historiometry. It estimated IQs for all US presidents, and validated the headline of the hoax, which stated Bush's was the lowest of any president in the last 50 years, though it estimates his IQ somewhat higher than the 91 suggested in the hoax report. It rated G.W. Bush second to last since 1900, with an estimated IQ of 125 (the estimate ranged from 111 to 139). Bush's estimated IQ was only higher than those estimated for Grant (120), Monroe (124), and Harding (124). The same study estimated president Bill Clinton's IQ at 149, behind only those of Kennedy (151), Jefferson (154) and J. Quincy Adams (169).[10] In an interview, the study's director noted that "Bush may be 'much smarter' than the findings imply" but that he "scores particularly unimpressively for 'openness to experience, a cognitive proclivity that encompasses unusual receptiveness to fantasy, aesthetics, actions, ideas and values.' "[11][12][13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Presidential_IQ_hoax


My point was not to quibble over numbers,but a comment on the unreliability if many tests,including standard IQ tests. (and indeed,the very notion of an Intelligence Quotient)
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#45
RE: What is the size of your vocabulary?
IQ is itself a flawed test... why care what someone's IQ is?

Standardized testing is itself ridiculous.
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#46
RE: What is the size of your vocabulary?
Interesting point on IQ tests:

"Few people realize that the tests today represent the end result of a historical process that has its origins in racial and cultural bigotry. Many of the founding fathers of the modern testing industry-including Goddard, Terman and Carl Brighan (the developer of the Scholastic Aptitude Test)-advocated eugenics."

http://iq-test.learninginfo.org/iq01.htm
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#47
RE: What is the size of your vocabulary?
(July 18, 2011 at 1:22 am)Epimethean Wrote: Interesting point on IQ tests:

"Few people realize that the tests today represent the end result of a historical process that has its origins in racial and cultural bigotry. Many of the founding fathers of the modern testing industry-including Goddard, Terman and Carl Brighan (the developer of the Scholastic Aptitude Test)-advocated eugenics."

http://iq-test.learninginfo.org/iq01.htm
Yeah, I've heard that bullshit 'argument' before. Too bad there names were Goddard, Terman and Brighan and not Li, Wang and Zhang. Then, the argument might not be a complete waste of time.
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#48
RE: What is the size of your vocabulary?
(July 17, 2011 at 11:44 pm)padraic Wrote: 'Crap'? An interesting objective assessment.Based on what evidence?

Eight years of observation of the man trying to put together a coherent sentence in his native language, English.

padriac Wrote:My point was not to quibble over numbers,but a comment on the unreliability if many tests,including standard IQ tests. (and indeed,the very notion of an Intelligence Quotient)

I agree, but it is a generalization of someone's intelligence. It can be assumed that if one gets a 140 on the IQ test, that the person can be deemed reasonably intelligent. I chose the number 110, because that is the high end of the average level for humans. I don't honestly think is IQ is 110, but it was a nice way to quantify the fact that I don't think he is any smarter than a moderately intelligent chimpanzee.
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#49
RE: What is the size of your vocabulary?
30,200 words
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#50
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(July 18, 2011 at 1:28 am)CharlieMilles Wrote:
(July 18, 2011 at 1:22 am)Epimethean Wrote: Interesting point on IQ tests:

"Few people realize that the tests today represent the end result of a historical process that has its origins in racial and cultural bigotry. Many of the founding fathers of the modern testing industry-including Goddard, Terman and Carl Brighan (the developer of the Scholastic Aptitude Test)-advocated eugenics."

http://iq-test.learninginfo.org/iq01.htm
Yeah, I've heard that bullshit 'argument' before. Too bad there names were Goddard, Terman and Brighan and not Li, Wang and Zhang. Then, the argument might not be a complete waste of time.

Since even the creator of the tests, Binet, hazarded that such tests were likely to be misused, I think there's a truth to it. IQ tests are passe these days, especially on the heels of what Howard Gardner has been working on.
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