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RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 5:48 am
A 'good atheist' is more moral than a 'good theist' because a 'good theist' is good to please or gain brownie points with the great green arkleseltzer or whoever they worship.
A good atheist is good because they are just good, this seems a purer motive than being good because 'god is watching'.
Atheism takes the high ground.
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RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 7:44 am
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SummerQueen...So this is the 14 pages of stupid drivel??? You are right!!
BethK .....I  you: thankyou for your succinct answer
StatCrux what are you on?? 
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RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 7:51 am
And Dar already gave the answers I was going to give, and Shell swung her sword beautifully, as always.
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RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 7:53 am
I am not just evil, I am the antichrist 
However I cannot speak for my fellow atheists.
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RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 7:57 am
Mannnn JustTristo....you iz such a stirrer! 
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RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 8:42 am
(September 10, 2011 at 7:14 pm)StatCrux Wrote: (September 10, 2011 at 6:58 pm)Shell B Wrote: I wouldn't try to convince him of anything. I would report him to the authorities, lock my doors until he is arrested and move on with my life. Luckily, the cops tend to have the same morals as I do in regard to murder and theft.
That is simply referring the question of morality to accepted moral majority. The law isn't an arbiter of truth, simply the stronghand of the majority. I am questioning the basis upon which the majority "the law" functions. Where does the views of the majority have their basis? Many laws are at best questionable at worst immoral, depending upon where you derive your moral thinking. The Law and morality are most definately intertwined but to equate the two is false. This is why subjective morality is questonable, moral majority is not moral truth.
BTW, you've ignored my post #94, which adressed this question of subjective morality. I don't know if you are trolling, or simply not very good at engaging a discussion, but answering certain posts and ignoring others will not win you any kudos. And if people leave this discussion, it will be of your own doing. Here's my last attempt.
Let me rephrase that debate: every morality is subjective, including yours. Just because you are inserting your god into your morality scheme doesn't make any more "objective". Yours, whether it is Christian or any other region, is a subjective morality, to which any other religion would vociferously object to.
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RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 9:48 am
Hell of a good post which points out the problem so many have been attempting to reveal: Man-made religions are as subjective in their morality as any other human construct, and the ancient lack of separation between church and state is very good underscoring of this.
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RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 2:50 pm
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(September 11, 2011 at 9:48 am)Epimethean Wrote: Hell of a good post which points out the problem so many have been attempting to reveal: Man-made religions are as subjective in their morality as any other human construct, and the ancient lack of separation between church and state is very good underscoring of this.
Right on the mark here! Especially when you have no evidence that a given religion is even likely, much less true. You just cannot claim an ultimate morality in this scenario; you are likely to have a morality that differs from your religion anyway.
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
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RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Like I said in the very first response he got, a reference to a wendys menu is as good as a reference to any scripture.
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RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Like Jeebus, you were ahead of your time, buddy.
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