The Middle Ages Was the Best We Ever Had

[The Grand Nudger]

Hahaha, my family had the presence of mind to leave such a shitty place. Nothing wrong with guinness, it's smooth and weak, kind of like an "ethnic" budweiser..lol.

[5thHorseman]

Guinness is god.

[The Grand Nudger]

I hadn't heard "plastic paddy" in so long..lol. Made my day brighter.

[5thHorseman]

I use it a lot, i know shit loads of them, and genuine alcoholics.

[Justtristo]

And I take it that you know as many greeks, armenians, bulgarians and syrians to make that comparison?

Yes I have, I spent my teenage years in a neighbourhood with a lot of people of especialy Greek and Syrian descent.

Culture and language are like clothes, you can change them quite easily and people change their culture all the time.

[popeyespappy]

Fellas, turkish girls are awesome, and they just love John Q Whitey and his army uniform. I have pics Mehmet, maybe we've visited the same places? I probably have a few illegitimate red haired turkish children running around. By the by, the folks in turkey seemed very nice, nothing like this chest puffing douche.

(what can I say, poisoning the genetic well with mic blood everywhere I go)

Sinop? Izmir?

[kılıç_mehmet]

Fellas, turkish girls are awesome, and they just love John Q Whitey and his army uniform. I have pics Mehmet, maybe we've visited the same places? I probably have a few illegitimate red haired turkish children running around. By the by, the folks in turkey seemed very nice, nothing like this chest puffing douche.

(what can I say, poisoning the genetic well with mic blood everywhere I go)

Sinop? Izmir?

Fellas, turkish girls are awesome, and they just love John Q Whitey and his army uniform. I have pics Mehmet, maybe we've visited the same places? I probably have a few illegitimate red haired turkish children running around. By the by, the folks in turkey seemed very nice, nothing like this chest puffing douche.

(what can I say, poisoning the genetic well with mic blood everywhere I go)

The İncirlik air base? I never went to Adana. And besides, I'm kinda unsure that they would even come near you with that neanderthal look you have going there.
Not to mention that even the girls here are chest puffing douches.
I attend rallies of turkists at the 3th of may, and I see a lot of them, doing our trademark gesture, the grey wolf.

Yes I have, I spent my teenage years in a neighbourhood with a lot of people of especialy Greek and Syrian descent.

Culture and language are like clothes, you can change them quite easily and people change their culture all the time.

However, blood is not a piece of clothing that you throw away.
And for that matter, I can tell you that there were turkish speaking greeks in Turkey, yet even though they didn't know how to speak greek, they still used the greek alphabet, referred to themselves as greeks, married only amongst their own, and were christians, not muslims.
It was almost too easy to distinguish them from the local Turkish population(in my native Konya region, especially Karaman), since they didn't dress like Turks, did eat pork, and did not even circumcize their young, like all Turks do. But they spoke only Turkish. Those were luckily sent along with the other greeks during the population exchange.
Even if you do not speak your own language anymore, you still do actually retain knowledge about who you really are. Those turcophone greeks have not forgotten who they were, and are now some of the leading nationalists in Greece.
It's not to say that some of the descendants of the early order(as the late order only had native muslims in it, not converts) of the janissaries didn't survive until now, but after years of marrying only Turkish locals, I'm sure their original bloodline has been snuffed out fairly enough.
I still maintain my position that the majority of this country is compromised from the descendants of the original Oghuz Turks, and the supplementary Kipchaks, and other Turks such as Uyghurs who came to this country after the republic was founded.

Sinop? Izmir?

I did live in Izmir for like 7 years, although I was un-fortunate enough to be born in Istanbul. Izmir's a nice town, but we lived in a not-so nice neighborhood.

[Justtristo]

However, blood is not a piece of clothing that you throw away.
And for that matter, I can tell you that there were turkish speaking greeks in Turkey, yet even though they didn't know how to speak greek, they still used the greek alphabet, referred to themselves as greeks, married only amongst their own, and were christians, not muslims.
It was almost too easy to distinguish them from the local Turkish population(in my native Konya region, especially Karaman), since they didn't dress like Turks, did eat pork, and did not even circumcize their young, like all Turks do. But they spoke only Turkish. Those were luckily sent along with the other greeks during the population exchange.
Even if you do not speak your own language anymore, you still do actually retain knowledge about who you really are. Those turcophone greeks have not forgotten who they were, and are now some of the leading nationalists in Greece.

In Turkey, Bulgaria and Greece a hundred years ago religion rather than language was the ethnic divide. Muslims in those areas regarded themselves as Turks, Christians as Greeks, Armenians or Bulgarians.

The population exchanges which occurred between Turkey and Greece in the 1920s sent Turkish speaking Christians to Greece and Greek speaking Muslims to Turkey.

I still maintain my position that the majority of this country is compromised from the descendants of the original Oghuz Turks, and the supplementary Kipchaks, and other Turks such as Uyghurs who came to this country after the republic was founded.

Genetic studies say otherwise, the Azeris and Turks are more related genetically to their neighbors than with other Turkic peoples. Much the same with the Hungarians who are quite closely related genetically with Czechs, Slovaks and Poles than with their cultural cousins.

[kılıç_mehmet]

However, blood is not a piece of clothing that you throw away.
And for that matter, I can tell you that there were turkish speaking greeks in Turkey, yet even though they didn't know how to speak greek, they still used the greek alphabet, referred to themselves as greeks, married only amongst their own, and were christians, not muslims.
It was almost too easy to distinguish them from the local Turkish population(in my native Konya region, especially Karaman), since they didn't dress like Turks, did eat pork, and did not even circumcize their young, like all Turks do. But they spoke only Turkish. Those were luckily sent along with the other greeks during the population exchange.
Even if you do not speak your own language anymore, you still do actually retain knowledge about who you really are. Those turcophone greeks have not forgotten who they were, and are now some of the leading nationalists in Greece.

In Turkey, Bulgaria and Greece a hundred years ago religion rather than language was the ethnic divide. Muslims in those areas regarded themselves as Turks, Christians as Greeks, Armenians or Bulgarians.

The population exchanges which occurred between Turkey and Greece in the 1920s sent Turkish speaking Christians to Greece and Greek speaking Muslims to Turkey.

Genetic studies say otherwise, the Azeris and Turks are more related genetically to their neighbors than with other Turkic peoples. Much the same with the Hungarians who are quite closely related genetically with Czechs, Slovaks and Poles than with their cultural cousins.

In Turkey, there were no genetic studies done. No one took blood samples from me, nor from any of my relatives, nor any of my friends.
So I wonder, from whom did those blood samples come from?
Not to mention that we have like 15 millions of kurds in the country too.
And I certainly don't think that any genetic studies were done for Azerbaijan, if they weren't done for Turkey.

The population exchanges which occurred between Turkey and Greece in the 1920s sent Turkish speaking Christians to Greece and Greek speaking Muslims to Turkey.

Greek speaking muslims were quite few in number(most were simply Turks who spoke Turkish), as I already said, that Ottoman authorities did not allow greeks to convert by personal association, so it's evident that most greek speaking muslims are simply assimilated Turks.
Not to mention that even now, most Turks in Greece know how to speak their mother language, and practice most of it's customs, as with the Turks in other areas of the Balkans.

In Turkey, Bulgaria and Greece a hundred years ago religion rather than language was the ethnic divide. Muslims in those areas regarded themselves as Turks, Christians as Greeks, Armenians or Bulgarians.

You speak of the Balkans, where the christians described the muslims as "Turks". The muslims did always make a distinction between Turks and themselves, just like the eygptians did with the Mameluks in Egypt. This is the reason that there are different nation states in the Balkans, otherwise, Albanians and bosnians would simply call themselves Turks. In Turkey, the non-turk muslims did not regard themselves as "Turks". They still don't. And the 15 million kurds in Turkey, testify to that. And well, the circassians, who number around 2 million, are recent newcomers, who were not around in Anatolia for that long, as a matter of fact.
Besides, I already said that most Turks can trace their family to a yörük family, or at least a family that was known to be Turkmens.
My family are of Tatars(Balsar clan), and of Balkan Turks(who trace their ancestry back to the Kurtoğulları clan).