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RE: Another question for Christians
October 25, 2011 at 11:02 am
There is a full pantheon of bloodthirsty gods to choose from when making whatever sacrifice you wish to make. One doesn't have to assume that any of them exist to ask why human beings feel that blood is spiritual currency. In fact, human beings believe that blood is spiritual currency despite the fact that the tax collectors themselves (those blood gods) don't actually exist, yours included. That scapegoating and blood sacrifice have no effect should be obvious. Firstly, what effect could they have? By what mechanism? To whom?
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RE: Another question for Christians
October 25, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Quote:the question was "WHY does blood sacrifice bring any atonement for our sins?"
And if there is no god in the first place then all you are doing is killing something for no reason.
I'm fighting with an idiot on another board where he's claiming that Mt. Ararat was REALLY the place where the ark landed and not all these other places that ark hunters are looking for it. My point is, "shouldn't you demonstrate that there was a gigantic, earth-covering, flood in the first place before you worry about where a fictional boat landed?"
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RE: Another question for Christians
October 25, 2011 at 4:50 pm
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2011 at 4:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
What do you expect, if the faithful don't insulate their beliefs from each other the whole thing would collapse from the impressive weight of years of revisionary bullshit. Dont even ask them to explain something in it's entirety, it's indefensible, they'd rather take it point by point and just assume that it all adds up as whole. That each point can't even support itself is similarly lost.
"Why blood sacrifice"
-some bullshit about god and sin and blood
"What god"
-"THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING!"
Riiiiiiiight.
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RE: Another question for Christians
October 25, 2011 at 6:49 pm
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(October 25, 2011 at 4:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:the question was "WHY does blood sacrifice bring any atonement for our sins?"
And if there is no god in the first place then all you are doing is killing something for no reason.
I'm fighting with an idiot on another board where he's claiming that Mt. Ararat was REALLY the place where the ark landed and not all these other places that ark hunters are looking for it. My point is, "shouldn't you demonstrate that there was a gigantic, earth-covering, flood in the first place before you worry about where a fictional boat landed?"
Tracey Harris of The Atheist Experience has referred to this sort of thing as the social structure of Bigfoot. It's all very well building up the details of what do they eat, how do they reproduce, how long do they live etc, and you can construct an incredibly rich, consistent and plausible model - but unless the creature can be shown even to exist in the first place, everything else is white noise. Or bollocks, if you prefer.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Another question for Christians
October 25, 2011 at 6:55 pm
One of the wonders of the human mind, in the absence of any actual detail we'll fill in the blanks.
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RE: Another question for Christians
October 27, 2011 at 10:05 am
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6
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RE: Another question for Christians
October 28, 2011 at 9:58 am
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2011 at 9:58 am by KichigaiNeko.)
and you wonder why people get short tempered with you??
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