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A really hard question on Satan and deception.
#51
RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
(October 28, 2011 at 7:56 am)lucent Wrote:
(October 28, 2011 at 7:49 am)5thHorseman Wrote: On the 'is genocide a good thing or an evil thing', as simple yes or no would have sufficed, instead of twisting it. If your claiming that the genocide is justice, not genocide, you are indeed a cunt.

I'm saying Gods judgement doesn't qualify as genocide, which was the implication.


(October 28, 2011 at 7:56 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: So why do you NEED various "translations" luce? if they all say the same thing??

Sounding more and more like a mankind written object then a tome dictated by a deity.

Who says I do? Not all translations are created equal, and some choose to use different words in different places. I stick with one translation, and sometimes refer to others if I am unsure about a certain word or phraseology.


But it is ok for your deity to commit genocide and abortions and make men gay and women lesbian and have children born with cancer with no hope of living past the age of 3 and ...need I go on??

Your deity is a monster lucy
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#52
RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
(October 28, 2011 at 7:52 am)lucent Wrote:
(October 28, 2011 at 7:47 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(October 28, 2011 at 7:42 am)lucent Wrote: Justice is not genocide.

Yep, killing every damn living thing on the planet because of the actions of a minority.

Justice right there.......

What an inept bumbling loser your god is.

If you're referring to the flood, it wasn't the actions of a minority. Noah was the only righteous man on the entire planet.

I'm referring to the entire biosphere of which humanity is only a very small minority and which your asshat god decided to wipe out in a fit of childish pique because of the actions of that minority.

Again, a pissweak excuse for a god.
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#53
RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
(October 28, 2011 at 8:01 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
(October 28, 2011 at 7:56 am)lucent Wrote:
(October 28, 2011 at 7:49 am)5thHorseman Wrote: On the 'is genocide a good thing or an evil thing', as simple yes or no would have sufficed, instead of twisting it. If your claiming that the genocide is justice, not genocide, you are indeed a cunt.

I'm saying Gods judgement doesn't qualify as genocide, which was the implication.


(October 28, 2011 at 7:56 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: So why do you NEED various "translations" luce? if they all say the same thing??

Sounding more and more like a mankind written object then a tome dictated by a deity.

Who says I do? Not all translations are created equal, and some choose to use different words in different places. I stick with one translation, and sometimes refer to others if I am unsure about a certain word or phraseology.


But it is ok for your deity to commit genocide and abortions and make men gay and women lesbian and have children born with cancer with no hope of living past the age of 3 and ...need I go on??

Your deity is a monster lucy

When God was finished creating the world, it was "very good". Humans screwed it up. The blame rests on man, not God. He is constantly cleaning up our mess.


(October 28, 2011 at 8:03 am)Zen Badger Wrote: I'm referring to the entire biosphere of which humanity is only a very small minority and which your asshat god decided to wipe out in a fit of childish pique because of the actions of that minority.

Again, a pissweak excuse for a god.

The entire way of the Earth was corrupt, animals included.

Now the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence. God looked on the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth. Then God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth. (Genesis 6:11-13)

As you know, exposure to human beings can change animals behavior, so when human beings became nearly entirely corrupt, it effected the animals too.
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#54
RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
(October 28, 2011 at 8:08 am)lucent Wrote: When God was finished creating the world, it was "very good". Humans screwed it up. The blame rests on man, not God. He is constantly cleaning up our mess.

Since humans are gods creation he is ultimately responsible.
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RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
(October 28, 2011 at 8:08 am)lucent Wrote:



As you know, exposure to human beings can change animals behavior, so when human beings became nearly entirely corrupt, it effected the animals too.

Yes dear the Genesis quote holds no validity other than to point out just how horrid your deity is.

So now you are admitting to being corrupt?? You really have some issue there mate
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#56
RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
(October 28, 2011 at 8:13 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(October 28, 2011 at 8:08 am)lucent Wrote: When God was finished creating the world, it was "very good". Humans screwed it up. The blame rests on man, not God. He is constantly cleaning up our mess.

Since humans are gods creation he is ultimately responsible.

God gave man dominion over the world, so they become our responsibility.


(October 28, 2011 at 8:13 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: So now you are admitting to being corrupt?? You really have some issue there mate

When you sin you are corrupting yourself. The more you sin, the more corrupt and separated from God you become. That's the state I was in, like anyone else. It is only through Jesus Christ that you can be forgiven and restored, and by this I mean that God gives you a new spirit.
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RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
(October 28, 2011 at 8:08 am)lucent Wrote: The entire way of the Earth was corrupt, animals included.

Now the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence. God looked on the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth. Then God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth. (Genesis 6:11-13)

As you know, exposure to human beings can change animals behavior, so when human beings became nearly entirely corrupt, it effected the animals too.

So what had all the plants and bacteria and fungi done to be so corrupt?

And only a small percentage of animals have exposure to humans even now, so what were the crimes of the animals not so exposed?
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#58
RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
but why, if he watches us, did he allow them to go so wrong and not just nip it in the bud? or does he savour mass murder?
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RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
(October 28, 2011 at 8:22 am)5thHorseman Wrote: but why, if he watches us, did he allow them to go so wrong and not just nip it in the bud? or does he savour mass murder?

Must do 5th...perverted little deity he is. Or is it that he is just an idea construct of mankind (no offence to the males on this forum) and we are suck with mindless little slaves whole are STILL striving to justify their "master's" bidding after 2000years??
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RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
(October 28, 2011 at 8:21 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(October 28, 2011 at 8:08 am)lucent Wrote: The entire way of the Earth was corrupt, animals included.

Now the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence. God looked on the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth. Then God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth. (Genesis 6:11-13)

As you know, exposure to human beings can change animals behavior, so when human beings became nearly entirely corrupt, it effected the animals too.

So what had all the plants and bacteria and fungi done to be so corrupt?

And only a small percentage of animals have exposure to humans even now, so what were the crimes of the animals not so exposed?

Galatians 5:9

A little leaven leavens the whole lump.

You must know about the interconnected nature of the biosphere, and the interdependencies therein. If one species starts being abnormal, it will cause a chain reaction..and soon the whole thing will be off kilter.

I don't believe plants and lower lifeforms have souls.

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