Scripture for Trinitarians

[Minimalist]

We've been together for too long for me to criticize, D-P so I'll just observe that you bring some of this on yourself by encouraging the morons to think that you might be persuaded to believe in their god because you are open to the possibility of a god.

Sometimes, it's just better to slam the door on their fucking fingers, amigo.

[Cinjin]

We've been together for too long for me to criticize, D-P so I'll just observe that you bring some of this on yourself by encouraging the morons to think that you might be persuaded to believe in their god because you are open to the possibility of a god.

Sometimes, it's just better to slam the door on their fucking fingers, amigo.

exactly why I walked away from my debate with him. I spent so much time arguing with someone who thinks that the bible is proof of the bible and that god revealed himself in dreams. Rationality, Logic, Justice, Evidence: All words that are exclusively defined by him alone. I got tired of chasing him in his own circle and let him declare himself the winner ... which as you have just read ... he would have anyway.


It's a waste of time. The consolation for us: knowing that the only people that agree with him on this site are the other three or four imbeciles that think talking snakes, virgin births, and cyclical arguments are honest intellectual pursuits. He didn't provide a legitimate answer for a single one of your points DP.

[lucent]

[Minimalist]

It's personal testimony which is apparently of no interest to you.

Of course not. How do we know that you aren't some fucking lunatic who is only let out of his padded cell for an hour a day to use the computer in the asylum rec room? Judging by most of the drivel you write I'd say that is a safe bet.

Your "personal testimony" is totally worthless as evidence to anyone else because you could be:

a) correct
b) mistaken
c) deliberately lying
d) bat shit crazy

I give b,c,d equal chances of being right.

[Cinjin]

The debate is there for everyone to see. Fact is, your performance in the debate was fairly weak and you were pretty vulnerable towards the end of it. You shut it down after you started to flounder, and not only that, but you were a gentleman about it and took the last word so you could slander me uncontested. Now you're here to finally try to justify yourself in front of me and everyone else. Pretty lame, I have to say.

First of all, there is no way that any one here can secure the last word for themselves, as you can at any time start a thread to post anything you like regarding any conversation. Could not this last remark of yours be considered "the last word" if you so choose it to be? If you feel cheated, feel free to start a thread and draw attention to our debate so that you may have the last word. I assure you, it won't matter in the least. You will still be viewed just as bat shit crazy as you were before.

Also, you should know that two of your own brothers-in-christ PM'd me about the debate and said that they did not support your incessant line of questioning after I had answered your questions repeatedly. It would seem your ludicrous arguments and constant whining about non-existant ad homs were even embarrassing to them.

Anyway, as you stated, the debate is there for all to see, and you sir, are the only one here who believes yourself to have won the upper hand. Feel free to take any "last words" you wish, the evidence is there for all to read.

[lucent]

It's personal testimony which is apparently of no interest to you.

Of course not. How do we know that you aren't some fucking lunatic who is only let out of his padded cell for an hour a day to use the computer in the asylum rec room? Judging by most of the drivel you write I'd say that is a safe bet.

Your "personal testimony" is totally worthless as evidence to anyone else because you could be:

a) correct
b) mistaken
c) deliberately lying
d) bat shit crazy

I give b,c,d equal chances of being right.

I haven't met a single atheist who will even consider any evidence beyond Jesus Christ appearing in front of them, doing a miracle, getting it on video, and having it verified by at least 10 witnesses. You're already predisposed to reject everything I have to say, and not only that, but your entire worldview requires that you reject it apriori. The idea that I might be correct doesn't even enter your mind. All you're looking for in my posts are things to pick apart and use against me.

According to statistics, you're the abnormal one. 95 percent of this country professes belief in God, and over 90 percent of the rest of the world does too. The difference here is, I give you credit for being a (somewhat) reasonable human being with sincere beliefs. I used to be a strict materialist, so I know where you're coming from. I can understand the position of agnostics and atheists, having formally been one. But I also know that you're so locked into your box of atheism that you cannot even imagine how I might believe what I do. When I was agnostic I thought this brand of militant anti-theism was anti-intellectual and intellectually incurious. The truth is that the discussion of the existence of God is one of the most intellectually rewarding conversations you can have, but all you want to do is shut it down before it even begins. Christopher Hitchens makes the point succinctly:




EDIT: I thought this was the video..there is a video where he makes the point that a conversion about God touches upon all the most interesting topics of human existence, and that was part of the reason he enjoyed the debate..I'll have to find it.
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The debate is there for everyone to see. Fact is, your performance in the debate was fairly weak and you were pretty vulnerable towards the end of it. You shut it down after you started to flounder, and not only that, but you were a gentleman about it and took the last word so you could slander me uncontested. Now you're here to finally try to justify yourself in front of me and everyone else. Pretty lame, I have to say.

First of all, there is no way that any one here can secure the last word for themselves, as you can at any time start a thread to post anything you like regarding any conversation. Could not this last remark of yours be considered "the last word" if you so choose it to be? If you feel cheated, feel free to start a thread and draw attention to our debate so that you may have the last word. I assure you, it won't matter in the least. You will still be viewed just as bat shit crazy as you were before.

Also, you should know that two of your own brothers-in-christ PM'd me about the debate and said that they did not support your incessant line of questioning after I had answered your questions repeatedly. It would seem your ludicrous arguments and constant whining about non-existant ad homs were even embarrassing to them.

Anyway, as you stated, the debate is there for all to see, and you sir, are the only one here who believes yourself to have won the upper hand. Feel free to take any "last words" you wish, the evidence is there for all to read.

No need, I just wanted to remark on your talking about me in the third person and justifying what you did in the debate, while trying to delegitimize my posts by ganging up on me with Deistpaladin, as if you had been in this thread all along. I just thought it was lame.

[KichigaiNeko]

[DeistPaladin]

[Minimalist]

You're already predisposed to reject everything I have to say,

Because you are not the first to come along with this particular line of shit.

"I know god is real because he talks to me." The nut houses are full of people like that. Put the string (in quotes) "god told me to kill" into google and see how many hits you get.

As far as evidence and jesus performing a miracle in front of me, yeah...that might do it. But if you had a single first-century historical reference to some itinerant preacher wandering around Palestine doing magic tricks I would accept that as evidence that at least the BELIEF was current at the time. But you don't. All you have are the gospel ramblings which, no matter when they were originally written have been extensively edited by men with an agenda of their own. The fact that early xtians were so embarrassed by the lack of historical reference to their boy that they went back and forged a few speaks volumes to me about the reality of your beliefs.

[The Grand Nudger]

Gentleman up there sold his soul did he? Hope the devil kept the receipt.