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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
November 16, 2011 at 10:05 pm
(November 16, 2011 at 7:13 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I would rather that nobody was ever raped, but every time I read someone saying in effect, "She was asking for it" I really, really wish they could play the part of Ned Beatty in a real-live Deliverance movie. I mean, there's just no way to justify brutalizing a woman with "she shouldn't have dressed so sexy."
I'm a guy, and I like looking at pretty women. But I can control myself and don't jump on them like they're the last chopper out of 'Nam.
Well if you apply the logic of the blog writer to males then the guy who got ass raped in the deliverance movie must have deserved it because he had "purty lips".
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
November 16, 2011 at 10:14 pm
(November 16, 2011 at 10:05 pm)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: Well if you apply the logic of the blog writer to males then the guy who got ass raped in the deliverance movie must have deserved it because he had "purty lips".
I think you misrepresent it somewhat by calling it "logic"
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
November 16, 2011 at 10:30 pm
(November 16, 2011 at 11:54 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: \
Here's a video, it's part of a series of testimonies of ex Mormons, about someone who left the church and how difficult it was to leave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYDaoCSCoJg
Odd, she doesn't sound like Jean Brodie. She doesn't seem to be a teacher with a fascination for fascism. She doesn't even have a Scottish accent.
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
November 17, 2011 at 3:45 am
As long as we're blaming victims, why should we not kick this guy's ass and blame it on him for being a misogynistic asshole?
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
November 17, 2011 at 4:54 am
(November 16, 2011 at 10:01 pm)edk141 Wrote: I agree, but on the other hand, it pisses me off when some people take this too far and say we as a society shouldn't try to teach women to get raped less. Sure, it may not be their fault, but anything that decreases the number of rapes is good imo.
Wait...can you confirm what you mean here? I mean, iron chastity belts would decrease the number of rapes. Women staying indoors would decrease the number of rapes. What are you actually proposing?
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
November 17, 2011 at 4:59 am
I believe he is proposing that they dress less slutty. Apparently, very few people are aware that rape has nothing to do with what a woman is wearing. We have had this conversation on these forums before.
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
November 17, 2011 at 4:59 am
(November 17, 2011 at 4:54 am)ElDinero Wrote: (November 16, 2011 at 10:01 pm)edk141 Wrote: I agree, but on the other hand, it pisses me off when some people take this too far and say we as a society shouldn't try to teach women to get raped less. Sure, it may not be their fault, but anything that decreases the number of rapes is good imo.
Wait...can you confirm what you mean here? I mean, iron chastity belts would decrease the number of rapes. Women staying indoors would decrease the number of rapes. What are you actually proposing?
I'm not proposing anything, I just get annoyed with feminists saying that. I mean being taught how not to get raped (if it's even possible) doesn't have any downsides, right? It's just pragmatic.
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
November 17, 2011 at 5:01 am
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2011 at 5:02 am by Anymouse.)
(November 16, 2011 at 10:01 pm)edk141 Wrote: I agree, but on the other hand, it pisses me off when some people take this too far and say we as a society shouldn't try to teach women to get raped less. Sure, it may not be their fault, but anything that decreases the number of rapes is good imo.
Perhaps children are just asking for it . . . you know, the innocence and all . . .
Well, considering I'm male and it happened to me when I was seven years old (and that is all I am going to say about that), perhaps a logical extension is simply encase everyone in a chastity belt. Or lock everyone up in seperate rooms.
Forfend that we should decrease the number of rapes by taking paedophiles and rapists (and both sexes get raped) off the street, and educate people that rape is never the fault of the victim, any more than murder or arson.
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
November 17, 2011 at 5:05 am
(November 17, 2011 at 4:59 am)Shell B Wrote: I believe he is proposing that they dress less slutty. Apparently, very few people are aware that rape has nothing to do with what a woman is wearing. We have had this conversation on these forums before.
Did I mention dressing less slutty? I'm aware that people not dressed slutty are just as likely to get raped. It's the principle of the thing I object to. I mean I'd take considerable measures to decrease my chance of getting raped, I know it is not rape victims' fault but that doesn't mean rape-avoiding strategies shouldn't be looked into. I know a lot of people say society should teach people that rape is wrong and shit, but bad things happen, you know? It's the same reason I lock my door even though nobody should be stealing my things.
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RE: Mormon: "There is no such thing as rape."
November 17, 2011 at 5:05 am
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2011 at 5:07 am by ElDinero.)
(November 17, 2011 at 4:59 am)edk141 Wrote: I'm not proposing anything, I just get annoyed with feminists saying that. I mean being taught how not to get raped (if it's even possible) doesn't have any downsides, right? It's just pragmatic.
I don't know, is it? Depends. What is it we're teaching them?
(November 17, 2011 at 5:05 am)edk141 Wrote: Did I mention dressing less slutty? I'm aware that people not dressed slutty are just as likely to get raped. It's the principle of the thing I object to. I mean I'd take considerable measures to decrease my chance of getting raped, I know it is not rape victims' fault but that doesn't mean rape-avoiding strategies shouldn't be looked into. I know a lot of people say society should teach people that rape is wrong and shit, but bad things happen, you know?
Ok, so chastity belts for all then. Gotcha.
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