No. Stockholm Syndrome.

(July 21, 2015 at 3:49 am)Neimenovic Wrote: No. Stockholm Syndrome.

It's all the same, actually. Only different words for it.

Um....no. Stockholm syndrome is a defense mechanism. Nothing to do with stupidity.

(July 20, 2015 at 11:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Marginally better than this?

If taken literally, not really. Same goes for jews obviously.

So the better question would be, why any woman would worship that misogynist Abrahamic prick?

I understand that the problem is how they think.

It is not that theistic women do not value themselves. They do.

The problem is that they are brainwashed. They literally believe that the bible is as religious leaders state.

It's just that the majority don't question or examine their beliefs. They were told to believe when they were children, and so they do. So in most cases it isn't enough of a conscious adherence to speak of the women's desire to be part of the religion.

It's this whole "never having considered" angle that I really want to address. Unfortunately the barrier is often "don't want to consider". We can only try.

I don't understand the question. If you believe the religion is true, then whether you like it or not doesn't really figure into it. We don't reject gravity either when we break a leg falling down the stairs

For the same reason they spend excessive amounts of money on an industry whose sole purpose is to exploit them and make them feel guilty - They feel like it's the right thing to do, according to society.

(July 21, 2015 at 6:26 am)Alex K Wrote: I don't understand the question. If you believe the religion is true, then whether you like it or not doesn't really figure into it. We don't reject gravity either when we break a leg falling down the stairs

Yes, that was my take on some things when I was a Christian.  I did not like the second-place position of women, but not being master of the universe, my opinion counted for little.  The most I felt I could do was not push any of that crap, without violating any of it.

I remember talking with one Christian, years after I became an atheist, who flatly said that God was evil.  Her reasoning?  Just look at the stories in the Bible.  That God character is a nasty piece of work.  But being nasty does not make something nonexistent.  If it did, the world would be a much better place.  Anyway, she did not want to burn in hell forever.  But she did not like God at all.  Although I do not respect her belief in Christianity, I do respect her clear thinking about the morality of the God character.

If you believe things based on whether you like them or not, that is an informal fallacy with a name:  Wishful thinking.  Even though people are often prone to it, it is a really stupid way of thinking.