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Core Message Of Christianity Isn't One Of Love
#61
RE: Core Message Of Christianity Isn't One Of Love
The great triumph of Christianity - inventing an illness and prescribing itself as the only cure.

Genius
The gods did not reveal, from the beginning,
All things to us, but in the course of time
Through seeking we may learn and know things better.

These things are, we conjecture, like the truth.

But as for certain truth, no man has known it,
Nor shall he know it, neither of the gods
Nor yet of all the things of which I speak.
And even if by chance he were to utter
The final truth, he would himself not know it:
For all is but a woven web of guesses.

Xenophanes

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#62
RE: Core Message Of Christianity Isn't One Of Love
Here's my favourite quote about Christianity:

"Christianity is a complete pile of nonsense bullshit arse potatoes and I want nothing to do with."

-Me; just now.
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#63
RE: Core Message Of Christianity Isn't One Of Love
......AND HE NEEDS MONEY!!
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#64
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(August 26, 2015 at 9:00 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The caller to God is the door of the darkness of our sins, and is the help of God. 

I'm not sure of Christianity, but for example,  Moses was the way out of the darkness for Pharaoh and his people.

In each day and age, there exists a means towards God by which God wants us to enter.

The arrogance of saying "we don't need any help from you God to guide us out" is to stay, you who stumble in the darkness at the initial steps can be guided on your own through out the journey to God without divine help. You who have no sight of the path ahead can make it stumbling in the darkness without a light that sees the path and can show you the path.

Who's more worthy of being followed, who guides to the truth or that who doesn't guide to the truth unless it is guided. 

Obviously, people stating their opinions and society forming up cultural morals always happened and people followed leaders who didn't know the truth fully.

However, God knows who guides to the truth and as such can bring such people out.

Among the truths they guide to is how to show humility towards God both outwardly and inwardly, and repent sincerely out of love and regret.

Jesus was such a leader and guide, and his revelation called towards such guidance.

However people centered too much around one of the means towards God (Jesus) who was the light of the world, and equated him to God.

However it was true the way out of sins and the way to show repentance to God was through Jesus.

We are broken and have chained hearts, and need a connection to God. Jesus was that connection, and door God wanted people to enter by.

Moses was a homicidal maniac thug and con man.  He was one of the worse people in the Bible.  His family kicked him out when he was a baby to be a croc's snack.  He never knew his father.
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It's funny how people can learn more about what's actually in the bible from atheists on an atheist forum than they'd ever get from a lifetime of talking to christians. Or, you know, they could read the damn thing themselves. But let's not set the bar too high Tongue It's amazing they actually require encouragement to do so.

Don't get me started on the history of the bible either. Christians in general seem to know next to nothing about it, nor do they want to know. It's as damaging as the contents to the delusions. Ironically, they are missing out on appreciating a whole other aspect of the book only available to non-Christians.

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(August 27, 2015 at 3:07 am)Ronkonkoma Wrote: He let himself be pierced by a lance, and from his side flowed blood and water. This way, opening wide the torrent of Mercy, especially for those who did him the greatest harm. The infant king who was persecuted by kings and armies from the day he was born. A limp infant under the stars, who was born in a manger for livestock because there was no room for him at the inn. The Alpha and the Omega, who was and is to come. He was humble. A reed he did not break, and a stone he did not leave overturned. We killed him because we couldn't stand his immense innocence and honesty. He does not condemn unfairly, just as he didn't condemn the woman who was caught in adultery. Rather, he drew a line in the sand so that those who were going to stone her would back off. If we hated him, only then we would condemn ourselves to hell. But knowing him it is hard to hate him, unless we hated ourselves first. Either way, sooner would heaven and earth freeze over than his mercy fail to embrace a trusting soul.
Jesus said that he had been sent to just the lost sheep of the house of Israel.  He told his disciples to avoid Samaritans and Gentiles.  He never preached to the Gentiles.  So unless you are a Jew it seems that you might be betting on the wrong zombie.
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(August 27, 2015 at 3:53 am)robvalue Wrote: It's funny how people can learn more about what's actually in the bible from atheists on an atheist forum than they'd ever get from a lifetime of talking to christians. Or, you know, they could read the damn thing themselves. But let's not set the bar too high Tongue It's amazing they actually require encouragement to do so.

Don't get me started on the history of the bible either. Christians in general seem to know notes to nothing about it, nor do they want to know. It's as damaging as the contents to the delusions.

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(August 26, 2015 at 12:39 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(August 26, 2015 at 9:43 am)Drich Wrote: very simply put, We are all destined to Hell. we are all born live and die on a train that is heading to Hell with no other planned stops. The Love God offers, provides those who want off that train a way to get off of it.

The core message of Christianity is self-loathing. All humans are fallen. Pride is a sin.

So it is not ok in your world view to loath the negative aspects of one's self? how does someone like you ever become more than what you currently are? How can one like you ever improve upon himself if he is not allowed to identify negative/loathsome aspects with in himself n an effort to grow past them? What world view teaches people to embrace their negative qualities and not dare change them?
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(August 27, 2015 at 3:24 am)Kaninchen Wrote: The great triumph of Christianity - inventing an illness and prescribing itself as the only cure.

Genius

So you believe evil does not exist?

Or have you not ever given it any thought beyond your cliche'?
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(August 26, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(August 26, 2015 at 12:00 pm)Drich Wrote: God does all of that, so what else you go sport?

Well, Sport, other than the observation that you clearly have a fucked up idea of what love entails, I suppose the only other thing I have is the assurance that your entire story is bullshit from start to finish and that you've been had.

Love does not make room for those who only love themselves. Unrepentant sin is a deadly virus that will eventually fester and turn one into an evil monster. Why should someone who refuses to get deal with this sin virus be loved like those who repented of their sin, when the exact same opportunity was given to both? It's not my idea of love that you should question, but your own corrupt idea of love that says God must expose Those who He truly loves and those who love Him back to those who will eventually turn on us both. Especially when those people had a more than fair opportunity to be rid of this sin virus, at no personal cost to them.
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