(October 29, 2015 at 9:42 am)Quantum Wrote:And definitely not the result of an "explosion".(October 29, 2015 at 9:38 am)jenny1972 Wrote: theory : we and everything we see around us different species of plants and animals perfectly coordinated are nothing but the random inevitable result of an explosion
havent we tested this theory ?
No - Nobody claims that it is an inevitable result.
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Here's why Creatards might be right
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October 29, 2015 at 11:34 am
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(October 29, 2015 at 11:21 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 11:14 am)jenny1972 Wrote: oh so your saying before the big bang there was some kind of blueprint or organized DNA , hmmm pretty inpressive for unthinking exploding matter ... That's what I'd call a design That is the universal law of the universe, "this is the way that particles interact,period". You're welcome,scientists searching for that ultimate law. Science does the job of discovering why this is the way it is. Science cannot know how this universal law of the universe came into being. It's almost as if someone or something set a base as a design and the world sort of build itself on that base.  (October 29, 2015 at 11:14 am)LostLocke Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 10:50 am)jenny1972 Wrote: ugh this big bang religion is just as dumb as all the others .....Hahahahahahaha.... that's a good one! no the idea that a random cosmic explosion produced a huge variety of completely different complex living organisms all living together in perfect harmony is very believeable
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Evolution produced a wide variety of complex beings...Jenny..... There was a bit of a lull from one to the other, lol.
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 (October 29, 2015 at 11:36 am)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 11:14 am)LostLocke Wrote: Hahahahahahaha.... that's a good one! Things that are a misrepresentation of the big bang theory have been bolded by me. Are you embarrassed yet? That's literally all the words that you said about the big bang.
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October 29, 2015 at 11:41 am
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I think you missed out ... a few steps there jenny.
Like however many billions of years. No one is suggesting cats, dogs and humans came flying fully-formed out of the Big Bang! I'd suggest some research on the subjects of both the Big Bang and evolution, which are entirely separate. Trying to dismiss the whole of science with a wave of a hand and replacing it with goddidit is the danger of this kind of thinking. Science is hard, but it actually explains stuff. Pool: I'm afraid I can't gain anything more from what you say than "looks to me that it's designed, so it is designed". I've tried to glean more than this, but you'll have to help us out. Feel free to send me a private message.
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October 29, 2015 at 11:47 am
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(October 29, 2015 at 11:41 am)Esquilax Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 11:34 am)pool Wrote: That's what I'd call a design But I'm right though aren't I?  It's impossible to determine how this universal law of the universe came into being. To assume that it was created(sorry,designed) by something or someone would be the most logical thing to do 
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October 29, 2015 at 11:48 am
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There we go! Assume.
You just made our point for us None of us are claiming to have the answer. No it's not logical, because it is the fallacy of composition: drawing conclusions about a whole based on observations about its parts. Feel free to send me a private message.
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