(March 4, 2016 at 10:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: I was speaking of 'NV'. If you're referring to God's word, do you really think that God would allow Satan to corrupt God's written law when Satan had to have permission to deal with Job.

GC

Dude, seriously, take a look at what you just wrote there.

Satan needed permission from god to do harm against someone.

I suppose you could cloud your judgment and state with the usual idiocy, "oh, god is good and god is great and god is blah blah blah."

However, the fact that such a loving god would allow such atrocities to happen to anyone means that god is the furthest thing from good.

You can reason your way out of the logic any way you see fit, so long as it means you continue to believe god is good, but in reality where the rest of us exist there is no reasoning out of the truth.

So grow the fuck up already.

(March 4, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(March 4, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: 1. The difference in names is not the problem.  The problem is that of the three dozen entries, about half are give the same number and about half vary wildy, anywhere from 1 to 1100, and the variations are not always a multiple of ten or even in a single digits place.  Also there is not a uniform increase or decline from one to the other, but just random variation.

You were having a problem with the names before what happened? I'm not at home so I do not have access to all my books and I told you I couldn't explain the few differences in the passages from each book. As far as those differences go they make no changes to the spiritual teaching of the Bible, it is sound and uncompromising. you are nit-picking at trivial things like any child that doesn't know what they are talking about. Why don't just admit you want to live a life away from God and just stop trying to defend your unbelief with trivial things that change nothing about the saving knowledge scripture brings to man.

NV Wrote:2. So you are saying that Satan is more intelligent than me but not more intelligent than you?

No, I'm saying Satan is smarter than me, you and everyone else. I happen to have Christ to defend me from Satan's deceptions that you are falling for head over heel to the eternal damnation of your life.

NV Wrote:3. Not sure how this is relevant to the discussion.

Of coarse you don't, like I said through the use of scripture Satan has blinded you to the truth. He found you easy prey unfortunately. When one abandons their protection one will get bit.

NV Wrote:5. Why is it that Satan is not allowed to mess with the written word of God but yet humans mess it up all over the place?

Man corrupts the scriptures to satisfy his predetermined belief, the truth is written down and spread across the world so man can't corrupt the written word of God. Satan is not allowed to do a lot of things (you might not be here if he weren't contained), God hasn't ever let Satan to corrupt the written truth so man will always have a reliable spiritual guide. As for man's mind well as you can see by looking into a mirror that that Satan has accesses to the mind. 

NV Wrote:Want to throw out Psalms 12?  Fine, how about Matthew 5:18... oh wait, Jesus is talking about the "law."  inb4 GC goes full metal retard on us again.

I said nothing about throwing out Psalm 12, you've abandoned it because you've been shown the truth about this chapter in the Bible and you're mad because you got it wrong.
Do you think you've come here and brought and original thought or argument, well sorry to say this but you haven't and going online to find these arguments don't make them yours. Now for the verse that's be discussed numerous times and the atheist has always come out with nothing.
Matt.5:18 you've drawn out one verse to refute the entire Bible what a joke. You should have read the entire sequence of verses. If you had gone to verse 20 it says, "For I tell you unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. If you had cared to actually study the NT and seen that Jesus condemned the law keepers because they did it out of self pride not because they loved God. Jesus came to fill us with love for God, the law He spoke of is the laws given to all mankind not just the Israelites , you know the law I gave you hints of that you didn't go and search out others throughout the Bible. If you had cared to study the writings of Paul you would have been able to understand these laws, but no you want to nit-pick through the scripture and try and prove your disbelief. You must think the mature atheist here think you're cute with those little quips, I serious doubt it, grow up please. Like I said in the other thread, grow up or we're through till you do, I have better things to do than waste my time on a dust town. 
I want be back till Monday, if you answer I'll read it, if you act like a spoiled brat in your reply don't expect me to answer.

GC

You were having a problem with the names before what happened?

WRONG.  Re-read OP.



Of coarse course you don't, like I said through the use of scripture Satan has blinded you to the truth. He found you easy prey unfortunately. When one abandons their protection one will get bit.

So please tell me why Satan can do something like this, and yet he couldn't have altered the Bible in a time when there was like a 10% literacy rate and when the Bible was already being altered accidentally by men.



Man corrupts the scriptures to satisfy his predetermined belief, the truth is written down and spread across the world so man can't corrupt the written word of God. Satan is not allowed to do a lot of things (you might not be here if he weren't contained), God hasn't ever let Satan to corrupt the written truth so man will always have a reliable spiritual guide. As for man's mind well as you can see by looking into a mirror that that Satan has accesses to the mind.

Why does God allow man to corrupt the Bible but yet not allow Satan to?



I said nothing about throwing out Psalm 12, you've abandoned it because you've been shown the truth about this chapter in the Bible and you're mad because you got it wrong.

I'm not abandoning Psalms 12.  I'm backing it up with another verse.




Do you think you've come here and brought and original thought or argument, well sorry to say this but you haven't and going online to find these arguments don't make them yours.

WTF.  Where the fuck have you seen my argument here coming from someone else?  Where have you seen someone trying to prove that if the narrative of Christianity is true then the Bible must've been altered by Satan?  I've come up with several original arguments on these forums and you keep telling me I'm copying them from elsewhere, yet you can never find where they're coming from, and what's more, EVEN IF you were correct, it wouldn't make my arguments invalid.  What you are saying is not only false, but it is also stupid and irrelevant.




Matt.5:18 you've drawn out one verse to refute the entire Bible what a joke.

One verse could refute the entire Bible.  What if there was a verse that said Jesus rode a laser-eyed T-rex into Jerusalem and that belief in this was a salvation issue?  Would that destroy the entire Bible?

So my point is that if the Bible says it is inerrant, yet it clearly has errors, then it's case closed.



You should have read the entire sequence of verses. If you had gone to verse 20 it says, "For I tell you unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Dafuq does that have to do with the Bible being inerrant?



If you had cared to actually study the NT and seen that Jesus condemned the law keepers because they did it out of self pride not because they loved God. Jesus came to fill us with love for God, the law He spoke of is the laws given to all mankind not just the Israelites , you know the law I gave you hints of that you didn't go and search out others throughout the Bible. If you had cared to study the writings of Paul you would have been able to understand these laws, but no you want to nit-pick through the scripture and try and prove your disbelief. You must think the mature atheist here think you're cute with those little quips, I serious doubt it, grow up please. Like I said in the other thread, grow up or we're through till you do, I have better things to do than waste my time on a dust town.
I want be back till Monday, if you answer I'll read it, if you act like a spoiled brat in your reply don't expect me to answer.

How the fuck can I nit-pick a book if I haven't studied it?

Tautology (rhetoric); a self-reinforcing pretence of significant truth. See also "Bible, Religion".

And what of Tobit ?

Catholic bibles have that book, Protestant bibles don't.

Obviously, somebody is fucking up big time.

Maybe we ask god boy for a once and for all ruling on this matter ??

(March 6, 2016 at 6:16 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

Clearly, those parts are DIVINELY inspired directly by GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF, and all those passages are 100% correct, free of contradiction, and totally identical regardless of the version of Bible you are looking at.

(March 4, 2016 at 11:12 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(March 4, 2016 at 10:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: I was speaking of 'NV'. If you're referring to God's word, do you really think that God would allow Satan to corrupt God's written law when Satan had to have permission to deal with Job.

I don't know.  Neither God nor Satan are available for comment.  All I have is you, who appears content to pull things from his backside.

Read the Bible it's all there.

GC

(March 5, 2016 at 2:45 am)Kitan Wrote:

(March 4, 2016 at 10:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: I was speaking of 'NV'. If you're referring to God's word, do you really think that God would allow Satan to corrupt God's written law when Satan had to have permission to deal with Job.

GC

Dude, seriously, take a look at what you just wrote there.

Satan needed permission from god to do harm against someone.  

I suppose you could cloud your judgment and state with the usual idiocy, "oh, god is good and god is great and god is blah blah blah."

However, the fact that such a loving god would allow such atrocities to happen to anyone means that god is the furthest thing from good.

You can reason your way out of the logic any way you see fit, so long as it means you continue to believe god is good, but in reality where the rest of us exist there is no reasoning out of the truth.  

So grow the fuck up already.

You do anything at all about today's sex slave trade, no, then you allow it to happen just like the rest of us who turn a blind eye.

GC

If Satan and God actually exist, I believe that Satan is the good one becouse as much as i know Christianity forbiddens Same-sex marriages, Eating a cheeseburger or anything that mixes meat and dairy,Being a male who is not circumcised,Planting more than one kind of seed in a field,Disobedience, In my opinion The Bible is just made to control us and leave us without free will.

P.S: Its just my opinion sorry if I offend someone by that.

(March 7, 2016 at 12:20 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(March 4, 2016 at 11:12 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I don't know.  Neither God nor Satan are available for comment.  All I have is you, who appears content to pull things from his backside.

Read the Bible it's all there.

You're guessing. You don't know that it's in there any more than I do. This is just a blanket excuse for your inability to backup your statement.